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sp-1
Platinum Member
Germany
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 Posted - 09/14/2008 : 09:29:26
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Originally posted by bossarea
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Originally posted by Laurie
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How many do you have data for at the moment?
The current list of SP-1s
6400 Nov-77 big_boss_man
6500 Dec-77 tnsen
6600 Jan-77 Yahoo clear_switch ss
6700 Feb-78 Yahoo clear_switch ss
6900 Apr-78 Ebay ss
7000 May-78 Yahoo clear_switch ss
7500 Oct-78 bandmonster
7600 Nov-78 Ebay
7900 Feb-79 Yahoo clear_switch ss
8200 May-79 bossarea clear_switch ss
8300 Jun-79 sp-1 clear_switch ss
8600 Sep-79 Yahoo clear_switch ss
065000 May-81 Ebay bs
115300 Oct-81 Laurie ss
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
4854 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2008 : 12:45:46
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Originally posted by sp-1
The current list of SP-1s
6400 Nov-77 big_boss_man
6500 Dec-77 tnsen
6600 Jan-77 Yahoo clear_switch ss
6700 Feb-78 Yahoo clear_switch ss
6900 Apr-78 Ebay ss
7000 May-78 Yahoo clear_switch ss
7500 Oct-78 bandmonster
7600 Nov-78 Ebay
7900 Feb-79 Yahoo clear_switch ss
8200 May-79 bossarea clear_switch ss
8300 Jun-79 sp-1 clear_switch ss
8600 Sep-79 Yahoo clear_switch ss
065000 May-81 Ebay bs
115300 Oct-81 Laurie black switch ss
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visserman
Platinum Member
1072 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2008 : 11:36:32
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I have the opposite: A blackscrew GE-6 with serialnumber 9200.
It does not have momentorry switch as well.
Original??
I have a DS-1 with serial number 8800, this does have silverscrew and momentory switch.
Then there is a BD-2 serialnumber 9800, this does have the silverscrew but no momentory switch. Another note on this one: The silverscew looks different from all the others I have. It seems to be slightly bigger, not much but just a bit enough to make it look a bit different.
I'm affraid cannot do pics at the moment as this would help.
Just wondering about the GE-6 really. It does not make sense to change a SS for black one, but then the scew may have been lost over time.
Overal I am not concerned as pedal does sound fantastic, but just out of curriosity and because I noticed this thread.
Also wondering about the BD-2 and its different SS.
I have read somewhere where Bossarea mentioned different types of SS.
Could someone perhaps go a bit more in detail about the different kind of srews, or perhaps a little photo gallery with the different type of SS.
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ssanyee
Silver Member
Hungary
288 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2008 : 19:15:24
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Originally posted by visserman
I have the opposite: A blackscrew GE-6 with serialnumber 9200.
It does not have momentorry switch as well.
Original??
I have a DS-1 with serial number 8800, this does have silverscrew and momentory switch.
Then there is a BD-2 serialnumber 9800, this does have the silverscrew but no momentory switch. Another note on this one: The silverscew looks different from all the others I have. It seems to be slightly bigger, not much but just a bit enough to make it look a bit different.
I'm affraid cannot do pics at the moment as this would help.
Just wondering about the GE-6 really. It does not make sense to change a SS for black one, but then the scew may have been lost over time.
Overal I am not concerned as pedal does sound fantastic, but just out of curriosity and because I noticed this thread.
Also wondering about the BD-2 and its different SS.
I have read somewhere where Bossarea mentioned different types of SS.
Could someone perhaps go a bit more in detail about the different kind of srews, or perhaps a little photo gallery with the different type of SS.
Cheers!!
You are right, there are minimum two types:
In my CE-2 (SN:0200; prod.date:Jan/81):
In my OD-1 (SN:7800; prod.date:Jan/79):
But it is intresting: I have an SG-1 with SN: 9500 -> it has silverscrew but your GE-6 with SN: 9200 does not have SS? I think it should have SS!
And sorry, but it does not seem to be true that your BD-2 (Blues Driver) has been produced with SN: 9800  , perhaps you wanted to hihghlight here some other pedal...
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2008 : 19:40:30
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Originally posted by visserman
I have the opposite: A blackscrew GE-6 with serialnumber 9200.
It does not have momentorry switch as well.
Original??
I got two GE-6s. Both has serial 9800. One ss and one bs. I reckon the black screw is unoriginal.
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Originally posted by visserman
Then there is a BD-2 serialnumber 9800, this does have the silverscrew but no momentory switch. Another note on this one: The silverscew looks different from all the others I have. It seems to be slightly bigger, not much but just a bit enough to make it look a bit different.
BD-2? That's got to be a typo. Do you mean a BF-2? |
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visserman
Platinum Member
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Posted - 09/16/2008 : 11:35:52
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Yes off course, the BD-2 should read BF-2. Thanks for correcting me!!
The screw on the BF-2 is similar to the picture of ssanyee's CE-2. Cheers for your efforts man!!
My GE-6 is original!!
How do I know??
Okay here is another theory about how to check if your SS has been changed or not:
All SS pedals do have a mark on them from the screw. It may be that the screw was fitted shorty after the pedal was painted.
I have five, and all of those pedals do have similar marks.
Now when it comes to the GE-6, the mark on this one is much bigger than on all the other SS pedals. Why? Because the black screw is bigger. It does have two rings [read marks] whereas the SS pedals do have just one, and this one is usually smaller. The pedal does have backplate: Power DC 9volt.
Also the bigger SS, like on the BF-2 mentioned before does leave a bigger mark, because of this I would like to believe this one is original as well.
Black screws also leave a mark, but a very very light one, hold the pedal against the light and you will see its mark. On newer pedals the mark is less visible [different kind of paint, and the effect of ageing??]
As mentioned before, I believe the mark issue tells us something about the workmethod used for the pedals, that must have changed hence the difference in visibility of the mark. A SS does not leave a stronger impact than a Black Screw, that is what my GE-6 shows, because it is quite a visible mark, but a different one compared to SS pedals.
This obsevation also shows that Boss already had the Black screw in house while thay were still using SS. We would need more examples of what I have discovered to proof that this is the point really
Another point: The blackscrews are different as well. Older ones do feel different on the base, and their actual screw is longer. It is only slight, but it is noticeable.
What is older?? On pedals which do have backplate Power DC 9 volts and the pedals which come straight after it but still carry the phrase "Use coin ....ect. |
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ssanyee
Silver Member
Hungary
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
4854 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2009 : 03:21:31
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Just reviving this thread.
With regards to the SP-1 earlier in this thread (S/N 115300)... I'm seeking a definitive answer if someone can give me one - is the silver screw original on this pedal?
Here are the pics:
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Brutalitarian Supremacy
Silver Member
USA
270 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2009 : 07:03:48
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| my SS SP-1's SN is 6800 (MAR 1978) give or take a few months...it has the clear switch and the immediate LED ...never noticed it before but the SN is printed (not labled) above the switch itself |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2009 : 12:51:00
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Originally posted by Laurie
With regards to the SP-1 earlier in this thread (S/N 115300)... I'm seeking a definitive answer if someone can give me one - is the silver screw original on this pedal?
I can definitely say... maybe.
Yours is one of only two paper label SP-1s I've seen so far. The other one (065000) had a black screw but it could just as well be that one that had an unoriginal screw.
Comparing to other pedals with the same serial number, 90% has black screws. Since the SP-1 was discontinued shortly after the general switch to black screws it is not inconceiveable that they used the remaining silver screws on this model. I think the only way to find out for sure is to wait until we have a larger number of pedals to make up the stats.
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verivorax
Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 07/05/2009 : 13:10:03
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| It's also possible, as the SP-1 has such a cache and rarity, that people would more readily put an SS where there originally wasn't one, simply to raise the perceived value. |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 07/05/2009 : 16:32:26
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Hi Laurie
I know it might be a dumb question?
But what type & color insulator does your SP-1 have?
Black, yellow plastic, paper, or clear plastic with the longitudinal ridges?
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
4854 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2009 : 19:02:56
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Originally posted by Dr. Bob
Hi Laurie
I know it might be a dumb question?
But what type & color insulator does your SP-1 have?
Black, yellow plastic, paper, or clear plastic with the longitudinal ridges?
Regards Dr. Bob
Hmmmm... that's a good question. It is yellow plastic. Sponge on the PCB. Seems to me like that's a good indicator that the screw is original? |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2009 : 20:36:29
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Originally posted by verivorax
It's also possible, as the SP-1 has such a cache and rarity, that people would more readily put an SS where there originally wasn't one, simply to raise the perceived value.
It is of course possible but an SP-1 is worth a lot regardless of which screw it has so I think it is more common on pedals like the DS-1.
I remember from the early 80s that a friend of mine switched the SS screw on his GE-6 with the black screw of his BF-2. The reason was that it was easier to change the battery on the pedal with the black screw so he wanted it on the pedal that was most used. This thinking may have led to a few unoriginal screws among early pedals. |
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
4854 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2009 : 01:46:16
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On the strength of the yellow plastic and the discussion in here, I think I'm going to call this one an original, and feel very happy that I now have one at all 
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Definitive list of SS serial numbers??
