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starr36
Platinum Member

Canada
1172 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2006 :  20:54:56  Show Profile  Visit starr36's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well, you guys might think I'm nuts on this but throw away all your Taiwan Made CS-3S and get one of these peacock blue MIJ LIMITER pedal.

I just plugged this thing in with my Gibson Explorer (this guitar sustains just fine, thank-you, without any processing) and clicked the limiter on, and this thing just sustained forever, WITHOUT the increasing HISS that the CS-3 gives you. Now it doesn't really add to your sustain, BUT, it sure gives the sensation of more sustain because you don't get the volume drop with an uncompressed signal.

SO, if you have guitar with great sustain, throw out your compressor/sustainer and plug in a limiter. WOW unbelieveable difference - dial in the level control AND a TONE control and you have a great little box to zip up your clean tones.

Put my DC-3 in front of this and my chords sailed out like over a lake of glass AND NO HISS that compresssors tend to produce.

AND THESE THINGS ARE CHEAP ON EBAY!!!!!!!!!! (so more cash for a good

Dingus
Silver Member

USA
472 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2006 :  21:01:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've had an LM-2 for quite the while now, and yes it works rather well. But in all honesty I like the CS-2 better. The MIT CS-3 is by far the worst and most hissy out of all Boss' Compressor/Limiter products. I had been using my LM-2 up until that though, but if you are looking for the best Compressor/Sustainer it's gotta be the CS-2. I have a CS-1, and have tried all variants of the CS-3 and they're nowhere near as good. Although I get the feeling that the best compressor/sustainer is probably a modded MIJ CS-3. Because besides that obnoxious hiss I rather like it.
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member

USA
603 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2006 :  23:39:40  Show Profile  Visit pawnshop_trash's Homepage  Reply with Quote
thanks for the tip, starr36! I was pleasantly surprised with how well my LM-2 ($21 off eBay) worked with bass. I'll have to try it with a guitar as a sustainer.

and I agree with Dingus about the CS-3 (the MIT variant, anyway). my CS-2 is somewhat noisy, but I'll give it another 'audition' sometime soon....
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visserman
Platinum Member

1072 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2006 :  00:33:56  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Okay people you may all be right, and each of you have their own rights in what you say, but the CS-3 can give you sounds which none of the other pedals can.

The LM-2 can not really give you that percussive feel [ read click] on your picking.

I use compressors for tonecolouring elements in my sound, not really as problemsolvers. So the whole sustain-idea is not really what I am looking for.

Overal the LM-2 is very very subtle, and yes some of you may like that, I like it too, and yes it sounds great for bass as well.

The CS-1 is a different animal compared to the CS-2 and 3, and not great as a tonecolouring effect, for sustain though it does the job very well.

Overal I feel the Aphex compressors are very fine for the sustain idea, these are very very quiet and smooth.

People who use compressors for sustain should check out the Ampex Punch Factory, very smooth and quiet indeed, and not that more expansive that a new CS-3, here is the link :

http://www.aphex.com/pedals.htm
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starr36
Platinum Member

Canada
1172 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2006 :  02:18:07  Show Profile  Visit starr36's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have had two MIJ CS-3s and unfortunately, have not had a chance to try the CS-2, so maybe that will be on my shopping list -

I guess my surprise with the LM-2 was, well, I really didn't expect much from it, but it really does a nice evening out of the volume and does not give the gas that a CS-3 does. You pretty much need a CS-3 (CS-2, CS-1) to get your Tele country twang, but I simply found it nice that the LM-2 "sounds" like a compressor, without the compressor whoooosh underneath.
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bossarea
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2006 :  11:39:38  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I found the LM-2 to be very good if do some fingerpicking.
It covers over my sloppy technique and makes me sound better than I really am
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Sunburst
Silver Member

427 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2006 :  12:00:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, from hearing this...I should perhaps start looking for an LM-2!

Edited by - Sunburst on 03/02/2006 12:00:30
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phostenix
Gold Member

USA
754 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2006 :  14:27:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Me, too!
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visserman
Platinum Member

1072 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2006 :  13:47:45  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What both Sunburst and Postenix are bad fingerpickers???!!

Give those righhandfingers a little work out guys, less time on Ebay and more time with those six strings in your hands, your wives may even love you more for it as well
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phostenix
Gold Member

USA
754 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2006 :  18:36:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd like to get a little more sustain with clean single coil sounds and I don't want the squash of a compressor. Maybe this LM-2 would do that.

I do my finger picking on the acoustic.

Grace and peace,

Steve
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maniacally_cool
Silver Member

Philippines
212 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2006 :  21:53:33  Show Profile  Send maniacally_cool a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
well, i have to agree that MIT CS3s is the topnotcher for producing a hissing sound, specially the newer ones. the CS2 is much quieter. haven't been able to try the LM2 and CS1. is the LM2 like a LMB3? if yes, it really is good for plucking. specialy for bass slapping.
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ammonite
Copper Member

New Zealand
30 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2006 :  18:19:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for posting on this Starr, as there's an LM2 just listed on a local auction site starting @ NZ$10 (so I may be able 2 afford it!)
Cheers!
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2006 :  08:33:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LM-2 is one of the pedals I bought and tested once with a bass, and then put aside for good�
I have to try it with a humbucker guitar and maybe there is a use for it, I would like that
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Big Boss Man
Gold Member

USA
564 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2006 :  15:27:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LM-2 is part of my regular line up. Great pedal.
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Roger
Bronze Member

USA
81 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2006 :  06:09:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have to second starr36. Based mostly on this thread; I recently picked up a LM-2. I plugged in my Dean Explorer and Wow! I really like how this pedal works with double coil PU's. It seems to add a sweet sustain and it's really quiet.
Single coils didn't seem to drive it hard enough to get it to do much.

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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2006 :  00:27:14  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i totally agree with Starr. 100 percent underrated. the LM-2 is one of my favorite weapons. this is also a life saver.(and an amp saver).

i dont like my CS-3 and like the CS-1 even less. i find if i set them too subtle, they do nothing and set too hard it takes the dynamics away. im definately not a compressor guy.

The LM-2 sits almost last in my chain. i mostly use it as a volume control rather than compressor though. doing this makes life so much easier. especially if you have a lot of pedals set up or go the stereo route as you dont have to tweak with individual volume controls.

by the way, Starr, quit giving out all the secrets.
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