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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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 Posted - 09/04/2008 : 02:32:07
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Hi Raven
Welcome to the forum from Australia.
Regards Dr. Bob |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 09/04/2008 : 15:06:09
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Welcome to the forum from the land of the black stuff... |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2008 : 17:01:30
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Welcome to Bossarea from good ol' USA!  |
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Raven
Copper Member
USA
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Posted - 09/04/2008 : 23:20:49
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Thanks Guys and I Look forward to hanging out and contributing to the Boss Forum.
Shine On, |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2008 : 02:04:01
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...you Crazy Diamond.  |
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visserman
Platinum Member
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Posted - 09/25/2008 : 13:03:37
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Hey Bob thanks for that link and the video, liked it a lot
Okay then, what Bosspedals come close or what about his tone?
Think Zen summed it all up, he knows his stuff eh??!!
A few comments on things people did not mention:
Steve his sound has not changed that much since his "Passion and Warfare" Album. The sound you hear on that album is what you hear here as well. What does this tell us? His sound is in his hands and his guitar. I do not know what amp he used on the Passion album, he probably already used Tubesreamers and DS-1's plus a host of other things.
I can see why he like that tone and it really works for that kind of music. Similar to Satriani. IN a way that tone is not that hard to get: You need a good, stable sound which can be fairly clean, but powerful at the same time. A good, simple overdrive, plus a powerful boost will do it. Okay how do you get that then??
I think the DS-1 and the Tubescreamer are a big part of that sound, plus a good compressor which can kick up the volume [and not change your tone too much!!] quite a lot. The output and tightness of his pick-ups does have a lot to do with it as well.
Could you get this sound then by buying his pedal? I guess you can come close, but you will also need the kind of guitar he uses. You do not need a JEM, but you will need a modern guitar. Nothing like a Strat or Les Paul, as their pick-ups will not have the power or tightness of something like a JEM.
The amp? Something which can give you a powerful clean sound, then work with the pedals and volumeboost from compressor [or booster]
An amp without too much character may be good for this, as the sound would come from the pedals and guitar, but then a clean Marshall sound would probably also do.
I really like how Vai ties the video in with what is going on in the world right now, and I would say the opposite: That is what matters really, but at the same time I hope we will find stability in this world so we will be able to carry on with our artform and enjoy peace and quietness.
I also like the "timelessness" of Vai, his colours are still the same, he still plays the same guitar, and he still stands for the same things musically, that while a whole new musictrend has passed him by.
We will forget those trends as times passes, but we will not forget Vai and Satriani. |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
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Posted - 09/25/2008 : 16:43:44
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Same thing James Hetfield spoke about once in an interview.
He was talking about how in between albums (91's black album and 95's Load) they saw all this shit fly by (all kinds of new styles that emerged back then, grunge, neo-punk, britpop, alternative rock, etc) and wondered where the hell Metallica would fit in, before they realised they wouldn't, so they just continued doing what they do best, be themselves and not fit in.
I guess that goes for all of the great bands/artists. |
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zentropa
Gold Member
USA
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Posted - 09/27/2008 : 08:44:30
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Think Zen summed it all up, he knows his stuff eh??!!
Don't give me an ego about my mental disorders :P
hehe. after working in a recording studio and spending way too much time tweaking my sound i've discovered a few things that just can't be "faked."
the dynamics of playing an amp that is cranked loud just can't ever be duplicated at lower volumes.
the resonance of different body woods, neck woods, guitar shapes, and fretboards all have their own characteristics.
various pickup styles, magnets, etc. all have their own types of dynamic response and decay.
amps of one particular style of design probably can't duplicate the tone of an amp from a vastly differing style. really there's only a handful of sounds out there and slight variances upon those sounds. fender tweed. fender black face. vox class A. marshall plexi. marshall JCM800. marshall JCM900. mesa. nearly every tube amp on the market is going to resemble something along those lines (and nearly every modeling amp is going to wish it was one or more of those amps). i should mention there is a newer type of tube amp that's characterized by the fender hot rods, peavey classics/valve kings, etc. that don't really approximate any of those.
however... adequately duplicating tones is often quite simple. so many designs overlap overlap nowadays (or were blatantly ripped off) to where who made it isn't as important as what's in it.
negating hands as part of the rig, I've always felt that the amp/speakers dictates about 70% of a guitarist's sound. pickup style to be about 10%. guitar style/make to be about 15%. 5% to everything else.
that being said, you are more likely to get a vai tone with a high gain marshall cranked to 11 with no pedal than you are with a solid state crate and the vai pedal. |
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