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chaz
Copper Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 10/22/2005 : 23:01:32
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Hi, i just joined and wondered if i could have the benifit of someones experience with phaser pedals.I play guitar in a working band and wanted to buy a phaser for some of the funky numbers but not having tried one for years and seeing so may models out there i wanted to know which one to buy , or is this a dumb question?? |
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arcanon1313
Silver Member
USA
414 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2005 : 23:34:39
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| I have the PH-2 Super Phaser and it works pretty good with what i need from a phaser. The PH-1 is better but kind of pricey, but it's a four stage phaser whereas the PH-2 is a ten stage in mode 1 and twelve stage in mode 2. The PH-3 is a digital phaser with 4,10,12,step, and rise and fall modes. I think the PH-3 would be a good choice for the money, but if you have the cash to buy a PH-1 or PH-2 then those would be better for funky sounds. |
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chaz
Copper Member
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2005 : 00:44:47
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| Hi, thanks for the help, i wll try for the PH1 it sounds like the way to go. I had a phaser years ago, didn't think i would ever use so sold it...wish i had kept it now.Thanks again. |
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boy echo
Copper Member
43 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2005 : 01:16:54
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stay away from the ph3 |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2005 : 11:51:53
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You'll get as many different answers as there are members on this forum 
I'd go with the PH-1R myself. Easier to find than the PH-1 and you have the added benefit of the resonance knob. |
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Jilty
Copper Member
USA
44 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2005 : 19:27:38
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I only own the PH-3 so I have know knowledge of the other pedals, but I'm pretty sure they kick ass. The PH-3 is pretty cool but it's an aquired taste. It can be very um, star trekkie if you know what I mean.
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chaz
Copper Member
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 21:44:46
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Thanks for all the info, i guess i will have to get out there and try a few but i suspect the PH1r is more up my street as i'm not really a gear head and the others look as Jilty says "treckie"
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Dingus
Silver Member
USA
472 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 22:18:37
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| I have yet to acquire a PH-1 or PH-1r. Although I am sure as it has seemed to be in the past that the first run of a series of pedals seems to be done right the first time. The PH-2 that I own is rather formidable and I like it much more than the PH-3, the PH-3 is more of a joke pedal used for cliche annoying sounding riffs. After all it is a "Phase Shifter" not necessarily a phaser. Hope that helps. |
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member
USA
603 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2005 : 23:05:51
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not to get all technical, but does anyone know of any differences in the circuit and/or components between MIT and MIJ PH-2s? I just got one, but it doesn't have a bottom sticker, and I'm trying to ID its country of origin.
oh yeah, I agree with boy echo -- stay away from the PH-3 if you can help it. on the other hand, the PH-1R is great. |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2005 : 15:43:26
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Most likely the MIJ and MIT versions are completely identical. If the pedal is old enough it may have one of those 052-xxx numbers printed on the PCB indicating which version of the PCB it has. Each revision normaly appended a letter to the number like 052-xxxA, 052-xxxB and so on.
In later years the 052 numbres has gone and instead there's a 10 digit number starting with 229. These were often found on the old pedals too and according to schematics they're both identifying the PCB.
To find out if there's any differences between a MIJ and MIT PCB you will need to read the numbers of two pedals to compare. |
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member
USA
603 Posts |
Posted - 10/27/2005 : 06:16:19
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bossarea, thanks for the info! alas, it has a 229 number, so it's probably made in Taiwan.  the main circuit board is stamped "PH-2 75226510" on one side and "PH-2 2291798503-1/2" on the other. I think the "1/2" refers to board 1 of 2 (a smaller circuit board near the pots is marked the same but 2/2). this PH-2 shares a sloppy paint job on the bottom edges of the casing, like my recent SD-1, and has a single adjustable trim pot located just below the "resonance" knob.
finally, in case someone out there owns a MIJ PH-2 and cares to open up their pedal to compare components, the chip complement of this recent MIT PH-2 is as follows:
2x IR3109 Roland 7960 [16-pin]
5x IR9022 Sharp 797DX [8-pin]
1x SA571N Philips (Thailand) 0194P07 rnr 9927 P [16-pin]
1x M5218AL Mitsubishi 9370 [?? pins, mounted standing on its edge] |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 10/27/2005 : 09:28:21
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In the 80s the pedals used to have both the 229 and the 052 number. i don't know when they stopped using the 052 number but the lack of it doesn't necessarily mean your pedal is Taiwan produced.
I'm expecting a PH-2 in the mail any day now. Don't know where it's made. I'll open it up and compare as soon as I receive it. |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 10/28/2005 : 23:07:52
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I got my PH-2 today. It's a silver label MIT.
It's got the same 229 number as you have so it's very likely that it's the same version.
The second number on the Philips Compandor (SA571N) is probably yyww of production (see the DM-2 thread for more info about this number). On mine it is '9901' which indicates 1st week of 99 making my PH-2 at the earliest a '99 model. |
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stahlhart
Platinum Member
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Posted - 10/29/2005 : 04:06:18
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These are the ICs in my MIJ PH-2:
NE570N
2 x IR3109 (Roland)
5 x IR9022 (Roland)
M5218L (Matsushita)
HD14053BP (Harris)
Board numbers: 75226510 (top), 2291098501-1/2 (bottom)
C.K.
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 10/29/2005 : 13:21:36
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Looks like it has changed a little over the years then.
The NE570N is also a compander so it has been replaced with the SA571N on later models. |
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Help choosing the right phaser
