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visserman
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 Posted - 10/24/2005 : 16:07:44
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Does this happen?
Yes and I have one, it is an OC-2, bought it second hand but it is a new one: The stamps in the metal housing is the same as the new pedals.
My guess is it is a pedal which may have been on one of the pedal boards in the stores. The boards where they have all the Bosspedals on display and you can test them by plugging in a gtr. while listening through the headphones.
Pedals on those boards do not have a backplate, so once they put those pedalds off [in case of older models] they need to go somewhere eh? So Roland may just put a replacement backplate on there, no need for a sticker as these are only put on later anyway.
Talking about the stickers: Last night I noticed on my DD-6 and RV-5 tey have a different kind of sticker compared to the SD-1 or DS-1 or any other of the distortion or overdrive pedals. I noticed the remark about Canada and regulations about electronical interferance, have seen that remark also on the sticker of the DC-3 but not on any other pedals, oh thinking about it, the PS-3 may have that as well.
Anyway this difference in labels makes me feel there could be different factories where they produce diffent pedals, or perhaps different factories for the labels themselves?
Have noticed antother thing: Okay off topic but.................
boxes for the TS 808 have the same kind of label and codes as the ones for the Bosspedals, interesting eh? Makes me feel these boxes are produced in one factory, the factory will produce boxes for diferent compactpedal manufacterers.
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/24/2005 : 17:36:11
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I have an OD-1 and a HM-3 with no label. I bought the HM-3 off Ebay about 6 months ago. The seller said he put some velcro under it and when he pulled it off, the label came off as well. Don't know why the OD-1 has no label. It made me go back to Ebay and buy another one 
I have a feeling that the text printed on the box is a requirement for exporting electronic equipment and they may well be using the same text because the standard says they should. |
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Dingus
Silver Member
USA
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Posted - 10/24/2005 : 22:41:28
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| yes, I as well am willing to bet that the majority of pedals that are missing the bottom stickers are because of Velcro pedal board users. I nearly pulled the sticker off of my TR-2 removing the velcro the previous user had put on it. Same was the case with my MZ-2. On that note I thought I might offer a helpful tip about removing the velcro from pedals, if you pull up and towards the pedal instead of away, often approaching it at all 4 different angles at once I find the velcro fairly easy to remove. The worst part is removing the sticky glue that infects the sticker. |
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visserman
Platinum Member
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Posted - 10/25/2005 : 16:20:25
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Yes I can see what you guys are saying, but the OC-2 I have is new, the rubber of the backplate still has that new smell of when you buy a new pedal. If the sticker would have been there in the first place you probably would still see some traces of sticky surface......but nope, not in this case.
Bossarea do you know anything about pedals being sold which are ex-demopedals from pedalboards in shops.
About a year ago I learned that Roland was getting rid of all their OC-2's for about £10,- this to make room for the OC-3. Now some of those OC-2's may have come from pedalboards who knows?? |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/25/2005 : 16:58:45
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| I bought my GEB-7 directly from one of those in store display pedal boards. In that case they were just normal pedals that was mounted into the display. The store had the boxes for every pedal in there. |
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member
USA
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Posted - 10/25/2005 : 23:00:53
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visserman wrote, "The stamps in the metal housing is the same as the new pedals." just out of curiosity, could you be more specific about these stamps?
I just got a PH-2 that was advertised as MIJ, but has no sticker on the bottom plate and no country of origin printed on the circuit board.  this PH-2 has T36 in raised text on the main pedal casing in the battery compartment, and metal pedal 'cover' (the part that you stomp on) has T32 in raised text on its underside, in the battery compartment. this PH-2 also has the old-style AC output jack, but requires a PSA adaptor. |
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walrus121
Silver Member
USA
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Posted - 10/26/2005 : 05:06:06
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Originally posted by pawnshop_trash
visserman wrote, "The stamps in the metal housing is the same as the new pedals." just out of curiosity, could you be more specific about these stamps?
I just got a PH-2 that was advertised as MIJ, but has no sticker on the bottom plate and no country of origin printed on the circuit board. this PH-2 has T36 in raised text on the main pedal casing in the battery compartment, and metal pedal 'cover' (the part that you stomp on) has T32 in raised text on its underside, in the battery compartment. this PH-2 also has the old-style AC output jack, but requires a PSA adaptor.
Uh, I think you mean DC input jack?
Anyway, my advice for pedal board users is to use strips of velcro rather than attaching a whole sheet to the bottom of the pedal, or cut out a hole in the sheet to let the label be viewable as well as protected from the adhesive. I think I have said this before eslewhere on here. |
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member
USA
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Posted - 10/26/2005 : 06:15:42
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sorry, I meant the AC adaptor jack... which is actually already converted to 9V DC by the time it reaches the pedal.
oh yeah, I heard back from the eBay seller, who claimed that "all the PH-2's were MIJ" [sound of hand slapping forehead]... in a different thread here within the last week, I had noted that I'd never been burned on any Boss product bought on eBay... guess I spoke too soon. |
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visserman
Platinum Member
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Posted - 10/26/2005 : 20:13:13
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Originally posted by pawnshop_trash
visserman wrote, "The stamps in the metal housing is the same as the new pedals." just out of curiosity, could you be more specific about these stamps?
I just got a PH-2 that was advertised as MIJ, but has no sticker on the bottom plate and no country of origin printed on the circuit board. this PH-2 has T36 in raised text on the main pedal casing in the battery compartment, and metal pedal 'cover' (the part that you stomp on) has T32 in raised text on its underside, in the battery compartment. this PH-2 also has the old-style AC output jack, but requires a PSA adaptor.
Heh Pawnshop, yes I will give an accurate description of what I meant, but not today as I am posting from a public library [do not have my own PC ] will write down at home what these stamps look like, but heh.............do you have any new pedals yourself? Something like a LS-2 or NS-2, something you bought over the last 2 yrs? Think all the newer pedals have the same logo[read stamp] in them. Look at the top part of the housing and the part where the battery sits at the bottom, you can find them there, it will something like a number and a symbol, nothing complex really, but yep, very significant!!
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member
USA
603 Posts |
Posted - 10/27/2005 : 06:26:19
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thanks visserman! Bossarea helped ID this pedal as MIT based on a number on its circuit board (see the "help choosing the right phaser" thread"), but we should pool all of the Boss ID info (Boss 'taxonomy'?) that we have.
incidentally, this PH-2 has very similar markings to a 2003 SD-1 (subsequently modded by Analog Man), including a 2x6 "grid" sort of embossed into the battery compartment (may be a date (month) of casting code?), and the same sloppy paint job (drips of paint on the bottom edge of the casing, i.e. the surface of the casing that's not visible when the pedal is on the floor) as well.... |
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visserman
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Pedals without ANY sticker at the bottomplate.
