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visserman
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Posted - 12/05/2006 :  22:47:36  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Perhaps this is the pedal we should have a closer look at as in "Have there been any major changes which changed the overal operation of this pedal"

Thinking of this because of topics like this one here:

http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2010

There are more topics which deal with a similar CS-1 problem.

Not sure how to kickstart this off, so any of the tech. guys need to give some assistance here, then the rest of us can do the reporting bit.

bossarea
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/06/2006 :  00:34:25  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Don't have much info on the CS-1 yet. I've got maybe 5 serial numbers registered and they're in the range 9000-0500.
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Dingus
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USA
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Posted - 12/06/2006 :  06:47:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My CS-1 Serial # is 106700
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visserman
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Posted - 12/06/2006 :  16:30:23  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Right right, so posting the serialnumbers could be the start of this. Perhaps we can also include the type of screw, the backplate and the wording on this, its colour and country of production.
Will post later my serialnumber and some of the other issues.
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Dingus
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USA
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Posted - 12/06/2006 :  16:54:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
fine by me, I'll post the rest later, I think in the case of the CS-1 though, it would also be helpful in noting if that resistor is there that was spoken of in the CS-1 Volume Drop mod (http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1833)

Mine is a Black Screw and lacks that resistor, the back plate is MIJ, I'll go back and read the wording but I think its standard. I don't think the CS-1's had any other backplates though besides BLACK MIJ. The wording might have changed though as the early ones did have silver screws.
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visserman
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Posted - 12/06/2006 :  16:59:29  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for that link Dingus, reading from what some of you have posted about the CS1 I had a feeling that there must have been internal changes to the electronics since I do not really experience any of what some of you did mention before.

Will have a look at some of those values as well later on.
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Goran
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Sweden
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Posted - 12/07/2006 :  07:27:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My CS-1 don�t behave strange at all but don�t that much gain possibilities at low sustain settings.
Serial 0500
Silver Screw
Label black MIJ
Switch black
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visserman
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Posted - 12/08/2006 :  12:01:33  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
First of all, here is my serialnumber:

118100 printed on a sticker in the batt. compartment. Label is black, says "use a coin" ect.

Now some questions for you about these volumedrops:

When you experience them, do they occur when you are using distortion?
Do you play hard on your strings?
When you compare clean settings to distortion, while using the CS1, what do you find? Any differences in those volumedrops or..........?

I am trying to understand what people are talking about and here is what I did experience last night:

When using a distortion while playing heavy powerchords the CS1 is not all that great, but then I do not really like distortion in this kind of application, because the compressor takes away most of my dynamics,especailly when you hit the strings hard. But then that is the nature of compression right? Brings up softer sounds, lowers down the louder sounds.


Anyway, when I put the CS1 AFTER the distortion, the sound is somewhat more pleasing.
Note that I am talking about playing chords, not really playing single notes in this application.

Playing with clean sounds I find the results, while using the CS1, completely different, more pleasing and perhaps the compressor was more designed for that, after all it does mention something about putting brightness into your sound while holding chords [I just guess they meant CLEAN chord instead of distorted ones.]

Anyway, you would really a compressor to be able to handle different kind of playing situations eh? Not just clean rhythmplaying.

Will do some more tests, and also check with some other compressors like the CS3 just to see how they react to those playingdifferences.

Oh, will post some more numbers from the PCB board later, did check for the capacetorvalue, but could not find something with an obvious value of 75 or 150.
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visserman
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  17:53:15  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Don't think it is a good idea to compare CS1 to CS3 because they use totally diffent technology.

........back-and forwards we go with this...............
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