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PeterUK
Copper Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 09/15/2008 : 13:15:39
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Apologies for my first post being a request for information.
I've used the Forum search facility and I've Googled the subject to death, so maybe someone can help me.
I'm looking to purchase a number of replacement baseplates / backplates for my Boss pedals as I've just migrated to a Pedaltrain. I'm using the ultra Vecro products to secure all my pedals. This has worked fine but the most secure pedal is my Keeley-modded Bluesdriver and this is secured with a pad of ultra Velcro which is attached to a spare baseplate. The original Boss one was in the box when I got the pedal and I want to do this to the rest of my Boss pedals and avoid adding the Velcro to the labels or the rubber pad.
I've been in touch with Robert Keeley but they don't have any spare baseplates for sale and I cannot find a source for them.
Can anyone help? Boss makes thousands of pedals and someone, somewhere must make an sell the baseplates.
The alternative is to have some made and I've found a sheet metal worker. I've roughly measured the plates but if someone has the exactly dimensions (and/or a sketch) then I can get some made.
I've also noticed that my much loved Chorus CE2 has a notch to accomodate the power input. 
Can anyone help?
Thanks in advance.
 Peter |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 09/15/2008 : 13:23:22
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Hi PeterUK
Welcome to the forum from Australia.
You are the second person in the past week or so, to post about obtaining base-plates.
I am not aware of anyone making or supplying replacement base-plates.
Regards Dr. Bob |
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PeterUK
Copper Member
United Kingdom
19 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2008 : 13:43:41
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Originally posted by Dr. Bob
Hi PeterUK
Welcome to the forum from Australia.
You are the second person in the past week or so, to post about obtaining base-plates.
I am not aware of anyone making or supplying replacement base-plates.
Regards Dr. Bob
Thanks Dr. Bob
Apologies for the second request in a week. I did use the search but I didn't use the words "base-plates". Is that what they are called? What is the official terminology?
I suspect this is a much sought after part for lots of obvious and no so obvious reasons, so a small metal shop with an eBay account could make a steady income.
I'm at work at the moment, but I'll be e-mailing a small metal shop here in the UK with my request. Do you know if exact dimensions are known and what would be the best material? Steel? Aluminium?
Thanks for your reply.
Peter |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 09/15/2008 : 15:01:20
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Hi PeterUK
They seem to be made from a zinc plated mild steel, I guess for the magnetic & electrical shielding.
Mild steel is probably a bit stronger than Aluminum
But I guess Aluminum will be cheaper & easier to works with.
I would suggest at least 1mm or 1.2 mm for the Aluminum for strength, & resilience to knocks & bending for fitting Velcro.
(even 2mm is probably OK)
The cut out, is on all the older pedals, where the DC power socket it mounted at the bottom edge of the main casing.
You could always have just a plain one made up, & file out the socket part for a few pedals, unless most of the ones you need - are the older type.
I don't have the Dimensions of the metalwork.
Perhaps Bossarea or one of the other guys might, in their collection of goodies.
Not wanting insult your intelligence, but please don't forget,
that there is an insulating sheet between the base-plate, & the Back of the circuit-board, to stop shorting.
Good luck.
Keep us informed with you efforts, & the costs.
Regards Dr. Bob |
Edited by - Dr. Bob on 09/15/2008 15:04:51 |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
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Posted - 09/15/2008 : 15:04:44
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| You could always contact your Roland distributor, they could have the part. Usually it�s expensive with all the �extras� adding to the cost of the part. |
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PeterUK
Copper Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/15/2008 : 15:46:27
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But I guess Aluminum will be cheaper & easier to works with.
I would suggest at least 1mm or 1.2 mm for the Aluminum for strength, & resilience to knocks & bending for fitting Velcro.
(even 2mm is probably OK)
I'm thinking 1.5mm aluminium
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Not wanting insult your intelligence, but please don't forget,
that there is an insulating sheet between the base-plate, & the Back of the circuit-board, to stop shorting.
Not insulted at all. Good advice. Thanks.
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Good luck.
Keep us informed with you efforts, & the costs.
Will do. Thanks for your help and advice.
 Peter |
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PeterUK
Copper Member
United Kingdom
19 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2008 : 15:47:57
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Originally posted by Goran
You could always contact your Roland distributor, they could have the part. Usually it�s expensive with all the �extras� adding to the cost of the part.
I fear they may not want to supply "blank" plates as they contain tailored info for each individual pedal?
Peter |
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 09/15/2008 : 16:29:06
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Originally posted by PeterUK
I'm thinking 1.5mm aluminium
I was going to suggest 1.6mm (that would have about the same structural strength as the standard mild steel plate) ... good choice
The standard plate is steel for, I believe, two reasons - cost, and the rubber won't vulcanise to Aluminium as easily. Although the aluminium can conduct heat better, the pedals only dissipate milli-watts, so its not really a problem
For dimensions, I would just take a standard base to the metal shop and have them scribe around the edges onto some blank sheet. They will then make an initial one that's best to test it fits before they make any more! If they have an NC punch, they will just program the size into the machine and spit them out like watermelon seeds...
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member
USA
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Posted - 09/15/2008 : 18:36:10
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| FWIW, earlier this year I had to buy a replacement baseplate (among other parts) from Roland US... the metal plate is sold separately from the rubber anti-skid plate, so they (Roland UK) should be able to help you. |
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PeterUK
Copper Member
United Kingdom
19 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2008 : 20:07:39
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Originally posted by pawnshop_trash
FWIW, earlier this year I had to buy a replacement baseplate (among other parts) from Roland US... the metal plate is sold separately from the rubber anti-skid plate, so they (Roland UK) should be able to help you.
Wow! Thanks for that. My local Roland dealer said they weren't available so I've fired off an e-mail to Roland UK.
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member
USA
603 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2008 : 20:27:24
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| you're very welcome! just be sure to specify which pedals these plates will be used with, as there is a notch cut-out of one end for ACA-series pedals.... |
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PeterUK
Copper Member
United Kingdom
19 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2008 : 20:33:12
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Originally posted by pawnshop_trash
you're very welcome! just be sure to specify which pedals these plates will be used with, as there is a notch cut-out of one end for ACA-series pedals....
Yes, good advice. It was mentioned above but thanks for highlighting the differences again.
Peter
PS. Great forum. I've a few pedal mods in the pipeline so I'll be sharing my findings. |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/16/2008 : 00:07:11
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| Hi seem to remember that stahlhart bought a replacement chassis and bottom plate directly from Roland a couple of years back. I might be wrong and I can't remember any price being mentioned though. |
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PeterUK
Copper Member
United Kingdom
19 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2008 : 08:10:11
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Originally posted by bossarea
Hi seem to remember that stahlhart bought a replacement chassis and bottom plate directly from Roland a couple of years back. I might be wrong and I can't remember any price being mentioned though.
Roland UK are quite easy to deal with but depending on their response and cost of the plates, I still have a Plan B.
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PeterUK
Copper Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/16/2008 : 11:43:22
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Originally posted by bossarea
Hi seem to remember that stahlhart bought a replacement chassis and bottom plate directly from Roland a couple of years back. I might be wrong and I can't remember any price being mentioned though.
You were right and I was right. Roland can supply them and Roland are quick at coming back to customers. They e-mailed last night and they replied this morning and invited me to order the parts.
The old type, for pedals like the CE2 with the ACA input, the part number is: 2202711601
For modern/current pedals, the part number is: 22027851R0.
The cost for the older type is 23-pence and the cost for the newer type is a whopping 42-pence. Plus tax of course!
They need to be ordered from Japan and the part numbers are global part numbers. The description is a "cover" and the base refers to the rubber pad. The minimum order for the UK is �3.00 so I odered a spare one of each!
For UK enquiries get in touch with:
Nick Walsh
Customer Support
Roland (UK) Limited
Tel: 01792 702701
Fax: 01792 600521
Web: www.roland.co.uk
Nick was happy to let me post these details and if it was an item that they received regular enquiries for, they would look to stock them in the future.
Sorted!
 Peter
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PeterUK
Copper Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/01/2008 : 11:03:01
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OK, after not too long a wait, my plates have arrived from Boss. Not quite what I was expecting but something to work with.
The standard plate actually comes with the rubber base, like this:
But the notched ones are just the plate.
I'm going to check with Roland to determine if they can supply the plates only, but I'm happy for now.
Hope this has been useful for everyone else.
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Replacement or spare baseplates / backplates
