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starr36
Platinum Member
Canada
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 Posted - 01/12/2007 : 23:49:49
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i was looking at a few auctions and checking bidding history and eBay now hides the identify of bidders on an item and now simply list them as Bidder 1, Bidder 2 etc. so you can no longer scope out the competition i.e. to figure out if someone was a HIGH proxy bidder or a sniper, has a good record of buying high priced items or if they are newbies or not. now its no longer any fun as everything is completely private.
I find this very irritating.
here is the message they post.
" As the internet evolves, eBay continues to strike a balance between preserving transparency and protecting our Community of members. eBay has decided to change how bid history information is displayed so bad guys cannot target bidders with fake offers using this information. In certain cases, some bidders will no longer be able to view Bidder User IDs on the Bid History page. Your User ID will be shown only to you and the seller of the item you're bidding on. Other members will see an anonymous name, such as Bidder 1, applied consistently to the Bid History page. "
I think, the bad guys who troll eBay users should simply be hoofed off eBay. Oh wait, eBay has no Idea how to deal with ANY complaint so I guess this is how they fix it! |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 01/13/2007 : 12:10:09
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Originally posted by starr36
i was looking at a few auctions and checking bidding history and eBay now hides the identify of bidders on an item and now simply list them as Bidder 1, Bidder 2 etc. so you can no longer scope out the competition i.e. to figure out if someone was a HIGH proxy bidder or a sniper, has a good record of buying high priced items or if they are newbies or not. now its no longer any fun as everything is completely private.
I find this very irritating.
here is the message they post.
" As the internet evolves, eBay continues to strike a balance between preserving transparency and protecting our Community of members. eBay has decided to change how bid history information is displayed so bad guys cannot target bidders with fake offers using this information. In certain cases, some bidders will no longer be able to view Bidder User IDs on the Bid History page. Your User ID will be shown only to you and the seller of the item you're bidding on. Other members will see an anonymous name, such as Bidder 1, applied consistently to the Bid History page. "
I think, the bad guys who troll eBay users should simply be hoofed off eBay. Oh wait, eBay has no Idea how to deal with ANY complaint so I guess this is how they fix it!
Hi starr36
This is one of many reasons, some of us call it EvilBay.
It's a necessity, that some of us, can neither, live with or without.
I try to shop for equipment, with my local stores, both new & Secondhand.
I love dealing & haggling, face to face, they get to know you,
you can sometimes get them to mark items down to almost ridicules prices.
I still love to look around EvilBay, I try, to strike a balance
between the two.
But when it comes to the CRUNCH, the local secondhand stores win hands down.
As a point in question, Today, I picked up (4) pedals
(3) of them were Boss for Au$100
After a bit of negotiation of course, they were Discounted down from AU$160
 Four Bananas, for (4) pedals.
EvilBay in Australia have not, implemented the software change for
Annon Bidders --- YET ---
Regards Dr. Bob
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HAGALAZ
Silver Member
Australia
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Posted - 01/13/2007 : 12:19:26
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they are anon now in Australia bob
 
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
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starr36
Platinum Member
Canada
1172 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2007 : 18:48:00
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I try to shop for equipment, with my local stores, both new & Secondhand.
I love dealing & haggling, face to face, they get to know you,
you can sometimes get them to mark items down to almost ridicules prices.
I still love to look around EvilBay, I try, to strike a balance
between the two.
But when it comes to the CRUNCH, the local secondhand stores win hands down.
As a point in question, Today, I picked up (4) pedals
(3) of them were Boss for Au$100
After a bit of negotiation of course, they were Discounted down from AU$160
Four Bananas, for (4) pedals.
EvilBay in Australia have not, implemented the software change for
Annon Bidders --- YET ---
Regards Dr. Bob
I wish it was so easy here in Calgary. The pawnshops and music stores are literally scattered all over the city, it would take 3-4 hours to drive around and visit each one, have a quick peek and leave, (sigh). When I lived in Downtown Toronto, it was a blast because there is literally a string of pawnshops all within walking distance kind of like the city zoned a street for pawning ... and the big musics stores are all realtively close by, so it was loads of fund doing the pawnshop tour.
I know what you are saying, though, DR. Bob. nothing more satisfying than finding a great pedal(s) from a pawnshop that is clueless to what some pedals are potentially worth, at least from a die-hard collectors viewpoint!
Pray do tell, what were those items you got for your 4 bananas??? |
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starr36
Platinum Member
Canada
1172 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2007 : 19:00:21
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OH yah, you'll all love this. I contacted eBay customer support to complain about this.
I learned long ago, not to even waste your time to complain about anytthing to eBay....
So I complained about the new policy and of course, I got one of those completely utterly foolishly unlrelated irrelevant autogenerated replies that proves that there are no people working at ebay. AND THEY AGAIN< JUST JACKED UP ALL THERE FEES IN JANUARY!!!
I am going to to start bombarding them with complaints like:
"It is horrible thay the eBay logo is designed with primary colours. This is an offense and outrage to the family of pastel colours. The colours on your logo are discriminatory and should be more inclusive. I Demand that the logo be change to include all the colours of the rainbow, like a prism shining across it.
Or how about this one:
"Your policy on ending a listing at a certain time is unfair. I am on a slower internet connection, so your server should be able to calculate the latency between my PC, my ISP and eBay servers, and be able to figure out that when I bid snipe, my bid was actually valid and that I should be the auction winner. I demand that you revise your programming to be able to truly detect actually time I PRESSED ENTER ON MY KEYBOARD vs latency to reach your server. I mean if the date/time stamp at the post office is legal for delivering legal mail on time, than this should apply to my local ISP server too, when I hit "enter".
Finally:
Given your over zealous concerns about privacy and your complete lack of control or help to authenticate blatant fraudsters there should be a blanket protection in place for buyers that if they are every ripped off, they gut a full refund within 48hours. NOT 60 Days. I read your balance sheet. You can afford it.
Finally #2.
There is growing rebellion in the internet community that is disillusioned with the once fun and fair eBay. We strongly recommend that website name also be updated (along with the fees and policy enhancements) to truly reflect how much fun and the risk of doing business on eBay. The new name is "EVILBAY". |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2007 : 00:19:24
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Originally posted by starr36
[edited by Dr. Bob]
Pray do tell, what were those items you got for your 4 bananas???
Hi starr36
Check out the "New pedals aquired #2, thread, I'll post it up soon.
Regards Dr, Bob |
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starr36
Platinum Member
Canada
1172 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2007 : 02:49:08
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| nice finds, dr. bob! |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2007 : 04:06:31
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Originally posted by starr36
nice finds, dr. bob!
Hi Starr36
Just had a quick play with them all.
And sorry to fuel the DS-1 Tone Debate but;
My new DS-1 with the M5223AL does sound different to the Vintage
DS-1 with the TA7136 op-amp.
Now Diggum12, I still have to sit down for a while, with both & see
which I prefer, & if the M5223Al sounds smoother.
I have fallen in "Audio Love" with my new (to me) Dod Mystic Blues Overdrive. Or is that "Pedal Love"
It seems to have the subtle overdriven tones, that I have been searching for.
Nothing else in my collection sounds anything like it,
When you look at the Schematic, that's on the web, it has the same circuit topology as the tube screamer and other symmetrical clipping pedals.
But this unit sounds way different, I bought it on a recommendation from a long time pro musician friend. he was right! it just sounds ... can I say it, or dare I say it?
Mystical - magical, (call it what you want), it has the right tones for me. 
Regards Dr. Bob  |
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starr36
Platinum Member
Canada
1172 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2007 : 19:38:22
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Originally posted by Dr. Bob
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Originally posted by starr36
nice finds, dr. bob!
Hi Starr36
Just had a quick play with them all.
And sorry to fuel the DS-1 Tone Debate but;
My new DS-1 with the M5223AL does sound different to the Vintage
DS-1 with the TA7136 op-amp.
Now Diggum12, I still have to sit down for a while, with both & see
which I prefer, & if the M5223Al sounds smoother.
I have fallen in "Audio Love" with my new (to me) Dod Mystic Blues Overdrive. Or is that "Pedal Love"
It seems to have the subtle overdriven tones, that I have been searching for.
Nothing else in my collection sounds anything like it,
When you look at the Schematic, that's on the web, it has the same circuit topology as the tube screamer and other symmetrical clipping pedals.
But this unit sounds way different, I bought it on a recommendation from a long time pro musician friend. he was right! it just sounds ... can I say it, or dare I say it?
Mystical - magical, (call it what you want), it has the right tones for me.
Regards Dr. Bob
Hey there D.B.
What guitar / amp combo are you playing through??? Curious now about DOD, cause I have never even considered DOD as a pedal option.... |
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
1418 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2007 : 05:32:33
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Originally posted by starr36
What guitar / amp combo are you playing through??? Curious now about DOD, cause I have never even considered DOD as a pedal option....
There are a few DOD pedals that aren't that bad. The FX52 Classic Fuzz is still a favorite of mine... |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2007 : 01:03:23
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i think its only a matter of time before Ebay runs out. i could see a new company emerging very shortly. one that LISTENS TO ITS USERS COMPLAINTS and doesnt charge its frickin users. there is a lot of things wrong with EBAY...especially the feedback system. how many times do you see one guy get negative, then you see that the other guy got negative from the first guy. just a big game of negative feedback revenge. chances are only one of them was crappy to deal with and the innocent guy gets negative. which one do you believe? its at the point where everyone is scared to leave negative because they might get some in return.
i think that the instant a seller gets payment approved, he should leave positive. i really find it ittitating when they wait for me to get the item and leave positive for them before leaving postitive for me. that just looks like they are selling crap...
then again, finding good deals is sweet so its all worth it. |
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
1418 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2007 : 02:12:47
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Originally posted by StratoSphere
i think its only a matter of time before Ebay runs out. i could see a new company emerging very shortly. one that LISTENS TO ITS USERS COMPLAINTS and doesnt charge its frickin users. there is a lot of things wrong with EBAY...especially the feedback system. how many times do you see one guy get negative, then you see that the other guy got negative from the first guy. just a big game of negative feedback revenge. chances are only one of them was crappy to deal with and the innocent guy gets negative. which one do you believe? its at the point where everyone is scared to leave negative because they might get some in return.
i think that the instant a seller gets payment approved, he should leave positive. i really find it ittitating when they wait for me to get the item and leave positive for them before leaving postitive for me. that just looks like they are selling crap...
then again, finding good deals is sweet so its all worth it.
Have you tried Yahoo Auctions? I haven't personally, but I know a guy who sells imported furniture and stuff on there. He says there are no listing fees. Worth looking into if you are looking to avoid eBay, yet market it to a large amount of people... |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2007 : 04:04:08
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i think ill stay with ebay. what i meant is that ebay is far from perfect, but its still the most popular auction site out there and as long as thats where the most people are, thats where ill be.
even though ebay is the devil  |
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
1418 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2007 : 17:00:42
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I was watching an auction for a DVD, and if you are going to shill bid on your own auction, or have someone else do it, for god sakes use different user names. There is a bid from "electriccoyote" (1 feedback, member since April '06) who raised the auction up from $6 to $9, then the next day, "electric_coyote" (ZERO feedback, member since September '03) raised it from $10 to $10.75, which is where it stands with a few hours to go, probably hoping that whoever wants it bids over the fake bid. I was interested, and was going to bid $12.50, but not now, now that I know, or at least feel, that the auction was not interfered with...Now I am wondering if the auction ends with no more bidders, will this item either be immediately re-listed or offered to the next highest, legitimate bidder...
I just decided to contact the seller with this message:
"I was interested in bidding, but the bids by electriccoyote and electric_coyote have me thinking this auction is not on the level. Don't know if you knew about it, but it doesn't look right, and I'll get this elsewhere."
I'll let you know if I get a response. |
Edited by - jack on 01/16/2007 17:05:15 |
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starr36
Platinum Member
Canada
1172 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2007 : 17:47:58
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quote:
Originally posted by StratoSphere
i think its only a matter of time before Ebay runs out. i could see a new company emerging very shortly. one that LISTENS TO ITS USERS COMPLAINTS and doesnt charge its frickin users. there is a lot of things wrong with EBAY...especially the feedback system. how many times do you see one guy get negative, then you see that the other guy got negative from the first guy. just a big game of negative feedback revenge. chances are only one of them was crappy to deal with and the innocent guy gets negative. which one do you believe? its at the point where everyone is scared to leave negative because they might get some in return.
i think that the instant a seller gets payment approved, he should leave positive. i really find it ittitating when they wait for me to get the item and leave positive for them before leaving postitive for me. that just looks like they are selling crap...
then again, finding good deals is sweet so its all worth it.
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I feel the same way. For a while, as soon as I got fast payment I left feedback, but then, the clowns never left me feedback when they rec'd the item. This cheezed me off because one sale was for $250USD, and I sure would have liked to have gotten MY feedback for delivering the goods (the buyers reputation is greatly enhanced because anyone checking him out they will see that there is no trouble with $250. which is pretty good for an eBay sellers confidence. So from now on, if you don't leave me feedback, I won't leave you feedback either. I am NOT using feedback as hostage, but I'm an honest eBayer, and if a buyer doesn't have the courtesy to say they were happy with the product, then I won't return the favour to say they paid fast.
Also, some eBayers (buyers or sellers) do not leave feedback right away as they want toe make sure everyone is happy first, HOWEVER, all said in done, the ONLY OBLIGATION OF THE BUYER IS TO PAY UP, according to the listing, and if the buyer does that, the seller should always leave the feedback. The seller just has to list accurately and ship it to the buyer. I have just found that too many times, IE> I have done about 140 eBay transactions and my feedback score is only 116 counting for about 5 ebayers I had double transactions with, my score should really be about 130 or so. TO that end, 10% of ebayers don't leave feedback. IF they have had a problem, they should have let me know rather than just not leaving feedback. |
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