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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  09:27:07  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie

Oh... YOU GUYS!!

Well, I'm cleaning it up slowly. Will take it into the music store tomorrow to see if I can get a pre-cut nut that fits. The nut on the guitar is very strange - made of brass (good) but with a wierd filing pattern - small "E" is filed to take a string as large as big "E" (not good).

I'm not sure whether to sand the whole thing back to bare wood, fill the dings and holes and re-lacquer, or just clean it and leave it as a "relic". It's neck-thru so a repaint includes the back of the neck (carefully avoiding the fretboard). On the other hand, I'm sure the wood will come up brilliantly with a relacquer. What do you think?




Vintage slightly Relic-ed is good - you will probably devalue the long term value if you sand it back & re-varnish it.

You know my thoughts all ready.
I'm Anal about modifying older stuff, & this is from the 80's.

Any Chance of some other pics of the back & thru-Neck?

Regards Dr. Bob - From the leave it as it is group.

PS, the old Ibanez Musicman guitars from the same 80's era, had a hybrid Brass & Bone-plastic nut.
I think I have some closeup pics of one.
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pedals 4 pv
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Canada
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  09:30:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try polishing it first. I've had good results with automotive wax "Turtle wax" is what i used before. Be warned it is quite abrasive but with a light touch and a soft cloth you can do wonders to an old finish.
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  15:26:10  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote









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DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  16:37:25  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Great pics, tks. Is that nut tarnished brass or wood? It kinda looks like either.
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  17:00:27  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Laurie

Thanks for the extra Pictures.
Can we also get one of the VV on the top of the heastock.

I wanted to show Alex that I work with.
In my PM, I mentioned that he also had one way back in the 80's

Regards Dr. Bob
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  17:13:13  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeFrag

Great pics, tks. Is that nut tarnished brass or wood? It kinda looks like either.



It is brass.
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  17:14:34  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

Hi Laurie

Thanks for the extra Pictures.
Can we also get one of the VV on the top of the heastock.

I wanted to show Alex that I work with.
In my PM, I mentioned that he also had one way back in the 80's

Regards Dr. Bob



Sure! I'll take one tonight. My apologies for not getting back to you on PM yet...
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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  17:56:26  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Great pics laurie..... the close up of the nut also gave a good close up of the strings,they look like their flatwounds.....? it's posible that the guitar was used by a left handed player hence the high E string part of the nut filed out too wide....if the existing strings are flatwounds it probably was used by a jazz player and most jazz sets start with the high E as a .013 so a possible that it's been used to heavy string gauges in the past,watch the neck if moving down to a ligher gauge,as it might need a slight ajustment...... are the mini switches coil taps...?...all in all i say you got yourself a little winner there bro'...........
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 08/08/2008 :  15:17:20  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
OK... new graphite nut purchased for $8. Les Paul truss rod cover for $5. Both will need some work to fit, but no big deal. Will dismantle it, cut and polish it, fit the new parts and do the maintenance on it on the weekend.

The guys at the music store told me "it isn't really worth anything because it's not collectable... but we really like them because they sound great". I'm happy

Headstock pic below Dr. Bob.



Edited by - Laurie on 08/08/2008 15:17:58
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Laurie
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Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 08/25/2008 :  19:37:30  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Got the hardware stripped off this guitar on the weekend. Going to apply the Turtle Wax cut-and-polish plus lemon-oil the fretboard when i get a few free minutes this week.

The electronics is in remarkably good shape - just needs lube on the pots and jack.
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Laurie
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Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2008 :  02:47:59  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Here it is 99% restored - just needs a spot of glue under the nut and the intonation redone once the strings bed in.

Total parts required:
- nut x 1
- truss rod cover plate x 1
- strings x 1
- cutting/polishing compound x 1
- labour x 8 hours

Mrs Laurie has commandeered it to learn on. A good investment all around




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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 09/02/2008 :  10:00:26  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote

quote:

Mrs Laurie has commandeered it to learn on.



Way to go Mrs Laurie...

Now you'll have to teach her "Jump in my car"
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2008 :  14:17:43  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob


quote:

Mrs Laurie has commandeered it to learn on.



Way to go Mrs Laurie...

Now you'll have to teach her "Jump in my car"



Yeah, and "girls on the Avenue"
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Dirk
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Netherlands
1309 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2008 :  17:34:06  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oh yes, and Chuck Berry's: "No particular place to go"

Nice restoration job Laurie
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2008 :  17:54:30  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dirk

Oh yes, and Chuck Berry's: "No particular place to go"

Nice restoration job Laurie



THanks Dirk! Took some time, but I have a HUGE desire for good old stuff to be fixed, rather than thrown out (that's why I do the pedal repairs).
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