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Kurt
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Posted - 08/01/2008 :  03:53:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi guys, I found this site as I was surfing for info on my dead DM-2. I've had it since the mid-80's and she has worked fine until recently. A few months ago it began only working hit-or-miss (either working fine, normal as ever, OR not at all) and now nothing. Doesn't pass a signal, no LED, nothing at all. I've attached a few pics for what it's worth. Using a 9v battery as power. It worked fine WHEN it worked, even when it was intermittent, so I'm thinking it could be a power issue, or the switch? I am not afraid to do some trouble-shooting with a solder gun if you can point in a likely direction. Heck, it already doesn't work, can't make it any worse!

Thanks in advance for any tips.

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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2008 :  14:03:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey hey! welcome to the forum

Looked over you pics, and the only area I can see having a problem is under the R38-R39-C32 area. Looks blistered, or is that a trick of the light?
Do you have a multimeter to check comps?

The service notes for the DM2 are here
http://www.godiksennet.com/default.asp?main=Schematics

You can get large schems here
http://www.schematicheaven.com/effects.htm
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Kurt
Copper Member

8 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2008 :  03:13:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey man thanks for the reply, and the links. I'll take a look at the schematics and my pedal and get back to you. Yes, I have a multimeter but will admit that I don't know what "checking comps" means.
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
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Posted - 08/02/2008 :  04:37:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just means check the components, see if they measure up correct to their values.
Also continuity or the 'beep-test', and the pots
Check the solder joints on the jacks, they may have broken
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andrewb
Copper Member

Australia
19 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2008 :  20:41:29  Show Profile  Visit andrewb's Homepage  Click to see andrewb's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
hey kurt
in your 2nd pic, bottom right of the curcuit board, there is a grey wire.... it has a red, white and bare wire in it...
could you please tell me where the bare wire goes?
mine was just sitting in there... and im not sure what it is meant to do.
thanks in advance
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Kurt
Copper Member

8 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2008 :  03:40:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No problem Andrew, will check it out and get back to you tomorrow (Sunday).
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andrewb
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Australia
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Posted - 08/03/2008 :  11:08:26  Show Profile  Visit andrewb's Homepage  Click to see andrewb's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
thanks :)
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 08/03/2008 :  14:55:04  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kurt

Hi guys, I found this site as I was surfing for info on my dead DM-2. I've had it since the mid-80's and she has worked fine until recently. A few months ago it began only working hit-or-miss (either working fine, normal as ever, OR not at all) and now nothing. Doesn't pass a signal, no LED, nothing at all. I've attached a few pics for what it's worth. Using a 9v battery as power. It worked fine WHEN it worked, even when it was intermittent, so I'm thinking it could be a power issue, or the switch? I am not afraid to do some trouble-shooting with a solder gun if you can point in a likely direction. Heck, it already doesn't work, can't make it any worse!

Thanks in advance for any tips.



Hi Kurt! Welcome!!

So, your DM-2 looks OK on quick visual inspection. Actually, it looks like it is in pristine condition

Just want to clarify a couple of things:
1) When it was intermittent, was it like it is now? "Doesn't pass a signal, no LED, nothing at all"

2) Are you ONLY using a 9V battery as power? Were you ONLY using a 9V battery as power when it was intermittent?

3) What condition is the input jack in? Can you post pics of the wiring (looking into the pedal towards the jacks and back of the switch?

Regards,
Laurie.
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 08/03/2008 :  15:19:49  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Kurt

Welcome to the forum from Australia.

Regards Dr. Bob
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Kurt
Copper Member

8 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2008 :  03:26:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Andrew - the bare wire is seen in the lower left of pic #1 - attached to solder point #13 (excuse my rookie lingo).

Laurie - thanks for the welcome! To answer your questions:
1 - Yes, when intermittent, it would either work fine (no problems), or like it is now, i.e not at all: no LED etc., like it isn't getting any juice whatsoever.

2 - yes, ALWAYS and ONLY used 9V batteries.

3 - three pics of input jack attached for your viewing pleasure.

Dr. Bob - thank you too for the welcome. Man this place is great!


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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
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Posted - 08/04/2008 :  04:14:54  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well, well, well...

The lug on the input jack with the yellow and black wires looks dodgy. Those frayed strands should not be there. Check that the yellow wire is connected to terminal 3 on the board... assuming this is the case, a fault on that lug of the input jack will cause exactly the symptoms you are experiencing.

Reterminate (cut and strip if necessary, and resolder) the yellow wire and black wire on that lug and you may find the problem is fixed. If not, those frayed strands need to be fixed anyway

Edited by - Laurie on 08/04/2008 04:16:28
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andrewb
Copper Member

Australia
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Posted - 08/04/2008 :  09:35:42  Show Profile  Visit andrewb's Homepage  Click to see andrewb's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
hey kurt
i know that its attatched to #13 on the curcuit board... but where is the other end of the wire attatched to?

hehe :)
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Laurie
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Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2008 :  02:53:21  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by andrewb

hey kurt
i know that its attatched to #13 on the curcuit board... but where is the other end of the wire attatched to?

hehe :)



It's not attached to anything... it is a "single ended shield". It attaches to pin 13 then runs up the wires from pins 15 and 16 until it nearly (but not quite) reaches the pot lugs. Don't attach the "pot end" to anything - that would cause hum.
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Kurt
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Posted - 08/05/2008 :  03:44:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Laurie - I re-soldered the black and yellow wires onto the lug but no dice. Good thought though! Is there a way to check to see if the switch is good? The input jack? Any quick checks I could do with a multi-meter? Thanks as always.
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2008 :  05:50:57  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The switch won't be faulty - it would simply not change ON/OFF if the switch was bad. To get a completely dead pedal, it has to be a power failure somewhere.

I'll think on it some more overnight/
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andrewb
Copper Member

Australia
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Posted - 08/05/2008 :  19:47:39  Show Profile  Visit andrewb's Homepage  Click to see andrewb's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie

quote:
Originally posted by andrewb

hey kurt
i know that its attatched to #13 on the curcuit board... but where is the other end of the wire attatched to?

hehe :)



It's not attached to anything... it is a "single ended shield". It attaches to pin 13 then runs up the wires from pins 15 and 16 until it nearly (but not quite) reaches the pot lugs. Don't attach the "pot end" to anything - that would cause hum.



ahhh fair enough
i will clip the end off it so it doesnt go touching anything....
i am guessing i have a faulty switch then....



hey kurt... have you checked your plugs? :)
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