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visserman
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Posted - 10/25/2005 :  17:02:01  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Are these not just really small booklets to advertise the pedals? Did they come along with the pedals? What is in them compared to the leaflets you find these days in the new pedals? The leaflets give you an overview and a short description of each pedal, so are the pocket dictionaries any different in that sense?

bossarea
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Posted - 10/25/2005 :  17:27:37  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There were 6 Pocket Dictionaries made between 1984-1990. After that they renamed then Guitar Effects Guide Book and they're still making them. They usually had around 85 pages each and covered every (or most) Boss products being sold that year.
There aren't much new information but some of the pocket dictionaries had recommended settings. You have probably seen the texts I've scanned in and if you compare it to the leaflets you can see the difference.

There's a copy of the 1st Pocket Dictionary on UK Ebay right now. It's not as rare as the seller claims. I've got most of these and I've rarely paid more than a pound each.
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visserman
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Posted - 10/25/2005 :  18:08:34  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes I have noticed the dictionary on Ebay as well.

Like the idea of the settings, so some of them are from the pocket diaries? I used to believe they were your own suggestions..... Anyway they are rough guide to some tones you can achieve, which is great.
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maniacally_cool
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Posted - 10/26/2005 :  10:26:02  Show Profile  Send maniacally_cool a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
yeah, those booklets are useful. i got 2. im just not sure what volume. but the latest one i got has japanese text all over it so i can't understand what it says about the pedals or what a certain setting is for. but the good thing about it is that it came with an audio cd of the settings of every pedal found in the booklet. luckily, the narrator on the cd speaks english. hehehe
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visserman
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Posted - 10/26/2005 :  19:40:55  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Whow an audiofile, now that is great, so how would you describe in your own words what a Sg-1 sounds like? Is it a useful pedal?
What about the VB-2? Vibrato seems to be such a hard effect to produce, most of the vibrato pedals sound like a mix between chorus and tremolo

Edited by - visserman on 10/26/2005 19:43:13
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maniacally_cool
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Posted - 10/27/2005 :  13:44:06  Show Profile  Send maniacally_cool a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
the cd doesn't include the sg1 or vb2. i once had a VB2. yes, it's a crossover between a tr2 and chorus. it's like bending your string up and down after picking on it.
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visserman
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Posted - 10/27/2005 :  13:52:34  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by maniacally_cool

the cd doesn't include the sg1 or vb2. i once had a VB2. yes, it's a crossover between a tr2 and chorus. it's like bending your string up and down after picking on it.



You said you ONCE had a VB-2, but no longer?? Did you not like anymore? Not useful enough? Or where you in need of some serious money??
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BOSSguy
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Posted - 10/29/2005 :  07:01:01  Show Profile  Visit BOSSguy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bossarea

There were 6 Pocket Dictionaries made between 1984-1990. After that they renamed then Guitar Effects Guide Book and they're still making them. They usually had around 85 pages each and covered every (or most) Boss products being sold that year.



Yup just got my Guitar Effects Guide Book vol.19
80 pages
It has sugested settings for every current pedal, for all types of music. Even sugested pedal combos, and pedal order guidelines when chaining many pedals

I think its a very cool little book
I'm glad GC had them laying around the BOSS EFX

If I didn't know anything about BOSS EFX with the use of this book I would be well on my way.
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maniacally_cool
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Posted - 10/29/2005 :  16:13:07  Show Profile  Send maniacally_cool a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by visserman

quote:
Originally posted by maniacally_cool

the cd doesn't include the sg1 or vb2. i once had a VB2. yes, it's a crossover between a tr2 and chorus. it's like bending your string up and down after picking on it.



You said you ONCE had a VB-2, but no longer?? Did you not like anymore? Not useful enough? Or where you in need of some serious money??




i didn't like it. and i don't think i can use it.
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visserman
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Posted - 10/29/2005 :  16:20:39  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Whow, at least you are honest with this, personally I feel that any sound of any Bosspedal will find its use on one of my recordings, but I have to admit, it is getting a little bizarre. Playing with these pedal you do become a true freak, and you even end up studying them................
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maniacally_cool
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Posted - 10/30/2005 :  12:06:37  Show Profile  Send maniacally_cool a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
well, true. i for one use only boss pedals. right now, all i have left is a MZ2 and NF1 in a BCB3. i'm still thinking of what i will put to complete the case. what i'm planning is maybe an EH2 or MA-1. if i can't find one, maybe a rare delay or chorus pedal. i sold my DM3 weeks ago. it's great but.....it's great. :)

Edited by - maniacally_cool on 10/30/2005 12:07:25
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visserman
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Posted - 10/30/2005 :  19:16:39  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You've sold another one which makes me think "Why would you like to get rid of that one?" The DM3, now I thought that was a fine pedal, but again, you did not think so..............

Coming back to the VB-2 isn't vibrato a really versatile sound which will fit in nearly any context of your playing? Yes not a sound you will use all the time like a distortion or overdrive, but still a very useful sound.

Guess we all have different tastes eh?
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bossarea
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Posted - 10/30/2005 :  19:41:02  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Vibrato works pretty much everywhere but I found that the VB-2 easily conflicted with my finger vibrato. The result was that the guitar sounded out of tune.

Used with care and a little extra practise I will probably be able to control it better.
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visserman
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Posted - 10/30/2005 :  19:54:18  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
From what you read about the VB-2 I get a feeling that it is a pedal which does change the pitch rather than the volume. A little like playing with your Whammy all the time. Makes me curious about how close it is to a whammy.
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maniacally_cool
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Posted - 10/31/2005 :  12:50:38  Show Profile  Send maniacally_cool a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
i let go if the VB2 because i can make the same sound (which i need) it produces by bending the strings. as i have said with all the pedals i've sold: "i can live without it!". i play mostly metallica songs so i don't think that the VB2 is that versatile for me. on the other hand, i liked the DM3. it adds dimension to my solos. but.... i can live without it. :) hehehe. what i would really want is a DM2, mainly for its looks compared to the DM3 and i think they have little differences.
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visserman
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Posted - 10/31/2005 :  14:55:41  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by maniacally_cool

i let go if the VB2 because i can make the same sound (which i need) it produces by bending the strings. as i have said with all the pedals i've sold: "i can live without it!". i play mostly metallica songs so i don't think that the VB2 is that versatile for me. on the other hand, i liked the DM3. it adds dimension to my solos. but.... i can live without it. :) hehehe. what i would really want is a DM2, mainly for its looks compared to the DM3 and i think they have little differences.



You may also like the DM-1, talking about looks

And yep, I can see your point, a VB-2 is not really found in the Metallica songbook, but perhaps you would give those songs a different edge by using a little vibrato

Interesting point you made about stringbending and being able to get that sound with your fingers. Sounds a bit like the Digitech Whammy pedal. Now I did not really associate the VB-2 with that sound, was more thinking of 60-s kind of laidback vibrato-sound.


As far as playing with pedals and your own style of music goes, I feel that the pedals make me play in a certain way rather than the other way around. When using pedals you may not need to work that hard on your tone and sound, whereas playing just an acoustic you reall need to do the work all yourself.
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