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mattoqua
Silver Member
Canada
438 Posts |
 Posted - 01/03/2007 : 23:15:22
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I was thinking about picking up a TU-2 tuner since it just makes everything easier, so ive been looking around to find one
I tried out a friend of mine's, and the display was letters. (in canada)
I was in a music store today, trying one out, and the display was in numbers.
I dont know why there was a difference, i am in sweden right now, so could it be a european thing for TU-2s to have numbers here, and letters back in canada?
Or is it just a mode (i didnt really try playing around with it)?
Im going to wait until i get back to canada to buy one anyway, but i prefer the letters a lot more. Are there 2 different kinds i should be looking out for? |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 01/03/2007 : 23:27:42
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nope theres only one kind i think. you can have the option of using
A)numbers 1-6. 6 being you E string, 5 being your A string and so on.
B) letters. E being your 6th string, yadda yadda.
theres both features on the TU-2. since some people find it easier to tune the 2nd skinniest string instead of the B string. i think you can switch between the two with the "mode" button. |
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HAGALAZ
Silver Member
Australia
161 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2007 : 02:06:52
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Hi guys
yes you can pick the mode for tuning. Normal, flat or double flat (Use string numbers) or cromatic (uses the note names)
hope that clears it up a bit
cheers |
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HAGALAZ
Silver Member
Australia
161 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2007 : 02:08:43
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forgot to mention, same as well on the bass guitar settings, I was reading that a big buyer of the tuner is drummer?????? I can only guess how they would use it to tune drum kits... |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2007 : 04:23:28
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TU-2 rocks (.) I heard here on the forum (correct me if I'm wrong) its accuracy can be within a few cents. I sometimes use the streaming mode until I get 2 single dots indicating the best tuning for open chording work. Besides, it can feed power to other BOSS pedals.
I couldn't live without mine, but I wonder what other tuners would be even more accurate. I've scoured the net for tuning methodologies & compiled a Word document summarizing a few methods for my reference. It mainly refers to the inaccuracies of tuning by harmonics which is fairly interesting. |
Edited by - DeFrag on 01/04/2007 04:27:53 |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2007 : 14:26:39
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quote:
Originally posted by DeFrag
TU-2 rocks (.) I heard here on the forum (correct me if I'm wrong) its accuracy can be within a few cents. I sometimes use the streaming mode until I get 2 single dots indicating the best tuning for open chording work. Besides, it can feed power to other BOSS pedals.
I couldn't live without mine, but I wonder what other tuners would be even more accurate. I've scoured the net for tuning methodologies & compiled a Word document summarizing a few methods for my reference. It mainly refers to the inaccuracies of tuning by harmonics which is fairly interesting.
Hi Defrag
Why don't you post the Doc. of your findings? 
I'm sure a lot of us would be interested to read it. 
Regards Dr. Bob |
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mattoqua
Silver Member
Canada
438 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2007 : 22:07:35
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thanks for clearing that up for me
i noticed at the store that every time i tuned it, it was a little different, so can anyone recomend a better pedal tuner for about the same price as the TU-2?
i heard planet-wave made some good ones
and what about those fender PT-100s? |
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tomwest
Silver Member
United Kingdom
436 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2007 : 23:21:34
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| Excuse my tuner noobinity, but it is a Chromatic Tuner that can tune to any note isn't it? I've got a tuner that will only tune standard and it drives me crazy, with the TU-2 can I tune my bottom E to say Db without capoing, fiddling or any bitching on the tuner's part? Thanks |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2007 : 05:02:03
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Here Dr. Bob et al. is a link to the original document:
http://www.precisionstrobe.com/apps/guitarharm/guitarharm.html
Here is what I added to my own version:
A harmonic is produced without fretting a string so it isn't subject to the equal tempering of a fretted pitch. A 5th-fret harmonic sounds identical to its equivalent fretted pitch. A 7th-fret harmonic sounds slightly sharp of its equivalent fretted pitch. The two harmonics in question form a unison where one pitch is identical to a fretted pitch and the other is not. As a result, the pitches differ slightly when the strings are accurately tuned.
Alternate Tunings
E A D G B E Standard
Eb Ab Db Gb Bb Eb Half-Step Down
D G C F A D Full-Step Down
D A D G B E Drop D (metal, powerchords)
D A D F# A D Open D (fingerstyle)
D G D G B D Open G (blues, slide)
C G C G C E Open C
E B E A B E Open E
D A D F A D D Minor
D G D G Bb D G Minor
B string
Because the interval between the third and second strings isn't the same as the others, you have to do something different. I recommend playing the seventh fret harmonic on the sixth string and matching it with the open second string. You can do the same thing for the first string by using the seventh fret harmonic of the fifth string to the open first string.
Play a harmonic on the 4th fret of the 4th string, & a harmonic on the 5th fret of the 5th string. Compare & make any adjustments. Then play the 5th fret harmonic on the 5th string & 7th fret harmonic on the 6th string & adjust.
A harmonic on the 7th fret of the low E sounds the same as the harmonic on the 12th fret of the B string.
The only way to tune the B string with a harmonic off the G-string is by using an artificial harmonic on the B. Use the 5th fret harmonic on the G-string, then press down on the 1st fret of the B string, place your index finger of your other hand over the 8th fret & pluck the string with your thumb.
Fret the G string 4th fret & hit the B string open.
Properly string your guitar
1. Turn the tuner so that the hole in the tuner is perpendicular to the neck.
2. Pull the string through the hole in the tuner from the inside of the headstock towards the outside of the headstock. Leave about 1.5" of slack string on the inside of the headstock.
3.Take the free end of the string and go around the back of the gear and underneath the portion of the string going through the hole in the tuner.Bend the free end of the string up and over the the portion of the string where it meets the hole in the gear.
4. Now tighten the tuner, allowing the string to wrap in a neat row down towards the bottom of the headstock so that the porting of the string going towards the bridge exits the gear as close to the bottom of the tuner as possible.
5. As a good alternative, you can allow more slack & wind the string down on the peg with many turns.
Pre-stretch new strings!
Always tune "up" to proper tuning instead of �down�.
If using a chromatic tuner, adjust each string to tune & let it drift slowly flat.
Capos usually cause your guitar to go out of tune, especially with a high action.
Tune the 5th string to a reference A. Tune all the other strings relative to the A as follows:
Tune the 6th string by fretting it at the 5th fret and comparing it with the open 5th string.
Tune the 4th string at the 7th fret to the 12th fret harmonic on the 5th string.
Tune the 3rd string at the 2nd fret in the same way (to the 12th harmonic).
Tune the 2nd string at the 10th fret in the same way.
Tune the 1st string at the 5th fret in the same way.
You can also tune to all "E's" as in:
1st E Open
2nd B 5th fret
3rd G 9th fret
4th D 14th fret
5th A 7th fret
6th E Open, 5th fret Harmonic
& finally, a great link for even more info:
http://www.endino.com/archive/tuningnightmares.html
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diggum12
Silver Member
USA
282 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2007 : 22:44:03
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| I always recommend my Planet Waves Pedal Tuner. Far better than the TU-2 and it doesn't suck your tone like a TU-2 either! |
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NetStar
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
117 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2007 : 12:34:21
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| My Arion only tunes to standard stuff, like whatever it's showing me on the screen. It's ok. |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
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diggum12
Silver Member
USA
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2007 : 19:47:59
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| So I imagine to see +/-3cent accuracy use the TU-2 in streaming mode. Just tune until the double-dots turn into singles. |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2007 : 23:43:50
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ya i only use stream mode. it may be wierd to get used to, but once you get it its quicker and according to this guy, more accurate.
i consider myself to be a quick tuner. if the two arrows come on and twitch back and forth thats good enough for me. personally, ive never noticed a problem with the tuning being off and i think its a great pedal.
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