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exodia333
Silver Member

USA
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Posted - 10/13/2007 :  08:52:00  Show Profile  Visit exodia333's Homepage  Reply with Quote
hey, I am trying to figure out how to use a synth without any special guitars or pickups

Im also trying to find a synth thats analog like a korg X-911

The last time I posted this topic nobody listened

Can somebody help me

Edited by - exodia333 on 10/19/2007 02:20:41

DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 10/13/2007 :  10:52:53  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I can run my guitar through my Moog Little Phatty synthesizer. You can use a SYB-5 http://www.bossarea.com/loadpage.asp?file=boxes/syb5.xml but I'm not sure how well it tracks a 6-string. What kind of synth did you have in mind?
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 10/13/2007 :  11:37:18  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi exodia333

Not exactly what you're looking for, as it has a pickup.

The Axon Ax100 MkII, is worth taking a look at.

http://audioen.terratec.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1

Some really great demo video's over on that site as well.
Watch all the vids, before making a conclusion.

Especially the Picking Zones....

Regards Dr. Bob

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 10/13/2007 12:52:47
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exodia333
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USA
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Posted - 10/13/2007 :  21:05:19  Show Profile  Visit exodia333's Homepage  Reply with Quote
(Defrag)

To answer your question the synth I'm looking for is basically like this Guitar----------Synth------------Amp in just a regular guitar output

In opposed to Guitar----Guitar Special Pickup---------MIDI Converter---------Synth----------------MIDI Output-------------Amp

(Dr. Bob)

I liked the axon site but I'm not looking for a rackmount because there way too much trouble to put together





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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 10/13/2007 :  22:15:07  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think electro harmonix make a couple of different units which might be what your looking for one is called a micro synth and there is also a pog which (i think) is the one that satch used on his last album..i have never used them myself but i remember reading an article with joe where he spoke about using it....and as far as i know it's totally analog and you don't need any special leads or pickups...just like a regular pedal.....

Edited by - FRANZONI on 10/13/2007 22:16:05
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 10/14/2007 :  04:32:10  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi exodia333 & Guys

I forgot to mention, That there is a couple of synth patches (quite good ones) in both the:
Korg Pandora PX4D and the
Boss GT-3
I would imagine that the later GT-6 & GT-8 would have similar Synth patches.
you can change the wave shape, Square Triangle, sawtooth, in both units.

And tracking is not to bad, but because of the pitch to voltage converters & the speed of the internal Mico,
The tracking tends to get a bit slower on lower pitched notes.

Although it could just be my guitar & playing style.

I would also imagine that some of the more recent Multi effects would have synth patches as well.

Regards Dr. Bob.
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visserman
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Posted - 10/21/2007 :  17:20:21  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by exodia333

(Defrag)

To answer your question the synth I'm looking for is basically like this Guitar----------Synth------------Amp in just a regular guitar output

In opposed to Guitar----Guitar Special Pickup---------MIDI Converter---------Synth----------------MIDI Output-------------Amp

(Dr. Bob)













Search on the Roland site or anywhere else.
Roland took the guitarsynth much futher than anyone else, and yes it is true that you needed a special pick-up [there have been quite a few different versions of this system, all with its own pros and cons] I would like to believe that they do something these days where you do not really need a dedicated pick-up.

If all of this searching fails, try looking for model-guitars and one which is dedicated to synth sounds, I am sure this is available now as well.

Then there was the RG8 Roland, and today there is an upgraded version of this one. Okay I know, not just one guitar, but then it only takes one box extra and it will get you in synth heaven.

Some of the older syths were even designed in such a way that they could be activated by a guitar as well, but again, this is more than just guitar and amp. It basically would mean you would need an old analogue synth and your guitar and amp.

Any newer systems are probably cheaper than going for an old analogue synth.. but the idea of an anolgue keyboard may be more fun, who knows???!

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One-Way
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New Zealand
104 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2007 :  10:16:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Buy the new VG strat and its built in. just plug and play.
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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 11/04/2007 :  22:53:53  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was just wondering what sort of sounds your looking for..?? i don't think you will be able to get the proper synth sounds the way you describe if your looking to make your guitar sound like a trumpet or saxophone like pat metheny does.... if your looking for big synth string type sounds i've had some good luck with a long delay set for a good few repeats with a high effect level with a bit of chorus and compression thrown in and a volume pedal(or you can use the volume control on a strat and your little finger) for swells....unless you go with a special pickup or a guitar with it built in like one-way suggested.....like i said in my earlier post i think electro harmonix make some analog pedals that you can get some synth like sounds out of but i have no experience of these as it's not something i would use on a gig.....
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exodia333
Silver Member

USA
273 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2007 :  02:32:13  Show Profile  Visit exodia333's Homepage  Reply with Quote
For me so far its either a line6 FM-4 or a korg X-911

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130170809476&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=003

I found 0ne

Edited by - exodia333 on 11/08/2007 07:12:54
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