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zestystrat
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USA
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  02:18:25  Show Profile  Visit zestystrat's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have an oc-2 that I bought a long while ago (no idea when) and the label came off due to pedal board Velcro. Is there something else that could tell me the country of origin? If I open it up is there something I should look for?

StratoSphere
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  02:22:43  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
open the battery compartment. to the left of the switch and where the wires come out, there might be a sticker saying "made in japan" with the serial number.

does the pedal say "Octave" or Octaver"?. if it says "octaver", its definately made in japan
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zestystrat
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  02:37:33  Show Profile  Visit zestystrat's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Says "Octave" and no serial number in the battery case.

It this helps it doesn't have the power jack attached to the circuit board ie "Old style". (http://www.analogman.com/graphics/ds1jacks.jpg)

Does anyone know when they switched over?

When I opened the pedal up on the power jack it says"Hosiden Japan". Safe to sell as MIJ?

Edited by - zestystrat on 12/09/2006 02:45:19
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StratoSphere
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  04:44:47  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
nope not neccesarilly. some of the earlier editioned Taiwan pedals say that on the AC input jack. some also say it on the pots. without the serial its hard to tell. if it has the newer style AC input (where the opening is in the middle as opposed to attached to the bottom plate) i can almost guarantee that its MIT.

Edited by - StratoSphere on 12/09/2006 04:46:04
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lamkelf
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Canada
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  04:47:02  Show Profile  Click to see lamkelf's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
What's the colour of the battery clip? Grey = MIJ. Correct me if I am wrong.
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bossarea
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  11:13:59  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
All OC-2s with the new style adapter socket are made in Taiwan. Up until around 1996 they were made with the old style socket.
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silvertone6120
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USA
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  15:31:18  Show Profile  Visit silvertone6120's Homepage  Reply with Quote
A little off topic but not much...

Why do people think that when they add velcro to a pedal they have to deface the label on the bottom of the pedal?!? Whenever I've used a pedalboard requiring velcro, all I did was remove the bottom panel, then put it back on backwards where the label is then facing inside the pedal. Then you can velcro the other side to your heart's content.
Then if you ever decide to sell the pedal, all you gotta do is remove the velcro and return the bottom to original(label facing out). Good as new, not a hard procedure at all. It just never ceases to amaze me how people end up tearing labels off pedals just to stick 'em in a board.
Nowadays I use a BCB-3; no velcro necessary but I only use 3 pedals(which is fine for me).
Sorry for the rant. It's early and one of my hot-button topics has already been hit.
Have a nice day!
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  15:47:53  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi silvertone6120
Great idea, with the back plates.

I didn't think that it was a rant.
I have a few very old Boss pedals that I got of EvilBay, and the previous owner had
decided to -- CLEAN THEM UP--- , before mailing them to me.

When I asked "what happened to the label?" I get told that they where damaged while removing the Velcro, so I threw them away...

And they never seem to understand why I get upset.

Regards Dr. Bob
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visserman
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Posted - 12/09/2006 :  17:46:55  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by silvertone6120

A little off topic but not much...

Why do people think that when they add velcro to a pedal they have to deface the label on the bottom of the pedal?!? Whenever I've used a pedalboard requiring velcro, all I did was remove the bottom panel, then put it back on backwards where the label is then facing inside the pedal. Then you can velcro the other side to your heart's content.
Then if you ever decide to sell the pedal, all you gotta do is remove the velcro and return the bottom to original(label facing out). Good as new, not a hard procedure at all. It just never ceases to amaze me how people end up tearing labels off pedals just to stick 'em in a board.
Nowadays I use a BCB-3; no velcro necessary but I only use 3 pedals(which is fine for me).
Sorry for the rant. It's early and one of my hot-button topics has already been hit.
Have a nice day!



Heh Man, no rant, some people on this planet THINK, while others............................
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ronster
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Australia
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Posted - 12/11/2006 :  03:37:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
great tip Silvertone.

I've heard of others putting a bit of thin cardboard cut to the size of the label and being placed over the label and then putting the velcro over the whole back of the pedal. That way, I guess when you take the velcro off the label is still good.

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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 12/11/2006 :  13:33:53  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ronster

great tip Silvertone.

I've heard of others putting a bit of thin cardboard cut to the size of the label and being placed over the label and then putting the velcro over the whole back of the pedal. That way, I guess when you take the velcro off the label is still good.


Hi ronster
Hey another great idea
Sometimes the most elegant solutions are also the simplest.

Regards Dr. Bob
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zestystrat
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USA
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Posted - 12/11/2006 :  20:16:16  Show Profile  Visit zestystrat's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Great tip silvertone6120.

I'm sure that was not directed at me personally, but labels do come off. I have had a few come off when the board is standing on it side and the weight of the pedal takes off the label and the velcro. In the south, it gets pretty hot and humid, so that helps.

I'm not a collector and I rarely sell my gear unless I HATE something, so it wasn't a huge deal when the label was lost. I was looking to trade this pedal but since I could not establish where it was made, the trade value was kind of low so I kept the pedal. No big deal since I like this pedal and maybe at some point it will go back on my board.

BTW I opened up another pedal (this one was MIT) with the "Old syle" plug and it has the same "Hosiden Japan" so it could very well be MIT.

Thx
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silvertone6120
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USA
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Posted - 12/11/2006 :  23:10:05  Show Profile  Visit silvertone6120's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My tirade was not directed at you, Zesty. Not at all...it just gets me every time you see a nice pedal on ebay that's missing the label because someone stuck velcro on it, when my suggestion is a simple fix and you can keep the label on the pedal, therefore helping preserve the value a little bit should you decide to sell it.

PS-I live in the southeast too, so I know about the humidity in these parts. Although I've never had a label simply fall off of a pedal, in a board or otherwise...even if my board sat in the cargo hold of a hot tour bus during the summer.
And it can be a bummer...I have two pedals in my collection, a recent Keeley-modded DD-3 in my board currently and an old CE-2 that don't have labels. The DD-3 I'm not worried about 'cause I use it regularly but the CE-2 is a mystery to me...it still has the green label on the bottom, only problem is it's missing the serial number sticker inside. Too bad...
Rant #2 finished.
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 12/12/2006 :  11:18:05  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Silvertone6120

Just for your interest, one of my CE-2's with a green label. has a silver sticker type number on it.

It's just like the silver S/num sticker, on the newer MIT pedals.
maybe that's why you can't seem to find a S/num sticker or ink pad printed number inside the battery compartment.

I wouldn't be too concerned about where it was made.
Just be thankful that you have a CE-2, that sounds wonderful, & that you can use in your everyday setup.

I went a bit silly (maybe not) & bought (4) of them.. .. I use (3) of them in a Tri-Chorus setup.

I have looked in all of my CE-2's & they all appear to be identical, though they all sound sightly different on the same settings.
Probably mainly due to component tolerances & component value drift, as they gracefully all age.

Regards Dr. Bob

Hey silvertone6120. you want to hear my secret dream?
My dream is to own 10 of them, & one spare for everyday use.
I suppose that, that really makes it 11.

Maybe I want to own all of the ones, that are still roaming free for the capture.
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silvertone6120
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USA
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Posted - 12/12/2006 :  23:36:26  Show Profile  Visit silvertone6120's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dr. Bob,
My CE-2 has the green label, no sticker or anything with a serial number on it. I don't know if it's MIJ or MIT. Not a big concern really; I use it now and then, and I have an MIJ CE-2 with box and instructions in a little nicer shape.

Good luck chasing down all those CE-2s in your dreams!
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StratoSphere
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Canada
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Posted - 12/13/2006 :  03:13:25  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
ya thats a great idea with the velcro on the flipside. i always used to put velcro over the rubber where it said Boss, but wouldnt put any over the label.
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