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Kramnation
Copper Member
USA
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 Posted - 04/23/2006 : 02:28:38
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Hello all,
I have been reading a lot about the order of your pedals. I pretty much plug the distortion in and follow with the rest in no particular order.
What is the best order, and should all go thought the effects loop, or through the guitar and amp?
Pedals.
2ea � Boss DS-1
V-Wah
DD-3
CE-3
PH-1
Fullerton Deja Vibe
TU-2
I really don�t use the distortion much since my BM100 Rivera amp has pretty good tone, but I would like to know how to place the pedals. This is the first amp I have had that has an effect loop. My 210 HD Music Man doesn�t have this and that is pretty much the only amp I have played through, so the effect loops is new to me.
Thanks for any info.
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
1418 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2006 : 02:52:32
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| Personally I've never enjoyed the sound of my distortion pedals through an effects loop, because they never sounded right for some reason, but maybe its just me. Its usually best to run delays last, though I cannot really explain why, it just is better that way. Other than that, its all personal taste, just experiment with different set ups and see which sounds best. You can find a number of articles that explain which pedal should go where and why, but its all a matter of personal taste, some people like wahs before distortion, others after, some prefer phasers after distortion, others before, I think you know what I'm saying. Anyways, I know some people opt for a hybrid set up, where they run certain effects through the loop, and others out, so just find some time to experiment is my advice. |
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1964
Copper Member
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GuitarStv
Copper Member
Canada
39 Posts |
Posted - 04/24/2006 : 13:14:38
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| I usually go Guitar->Distortion->Wah->Phaser->Vibrato->Chorus->Amp and this seems to work well for funk/space rock/alt rock/reggae. As for the tuner, you have stereo outs from the chorus, so just patch it off of one of the outs. That way it's out of your signal path and you still get to use it. You can even leave it on all the time. |
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midibuddy
Silver Member
Ecuador
285 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2006 : 18:58:41
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I wouldn't recommend connecting it like that.
I once connected my tuner to one of the outputs of my CH1 and lost volume... after the gig I realized that the 2 outputs are complementary when working together, so you lose half your sound when using one to connect a tuner. Hope this helps. |
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GuitarStv
Copper Member
Canada
39 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2006 : 19:29:43
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| The volume loss doesn't happen with a CE-5, DD-3, or PS-3. Maybe it's a flaw that has been fixed? In a buffered pedal, I would have assumed that the engineers would have just taken the signal, doubled it and then sent it out. . . anyone know? |
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midibuddy
Silver Member
Ecuador
285 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2006 : 00:03:09
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| it's not a flaw... the problem is that when you connect one jack to both outputs (one to the amp, and the other to the TU-2, like you said), the pedal "thinks" it's working in stereo (2 amps), and therefore, it sends one portion to the signal to each output. I'll check my manual when I get home, but I'm guessing it sends the dry signal to one ouput, and the "chorused" signal to the other. Hope this helps. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 04/27/2006 : 01:12:56
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I use the second loop on my ls2 to send a signal to my tuner and its painless for the audience..!! what i have done in the past before i had the ls2 is to put the lead out to my tuner halfway into the direct out on my dd3,this way it didn't mess with volume and sound,if you do this they can still hear you tuning up.....the ch1 in my opinion needs to be up volume wise at about 75% when run in stereo mode to get a good level with your clean sound,i think the ce1 in stereo had a similar problem and it clips quicker i read an interview with chris rea where he liked the 'crunchy' sound off it....... |
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midibuddy
Silver Member
Ecuador
285 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2006 : 19:24:32
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Ok, I just checked the manual, and in the chorus CH-1, in stereo Mode, Output A will be effect only sound (changing pitch sound), and output B will be normal (dry) sound.
So connecting the TU-2 to either one of the outputs, like I previously did, without using two amps, will not work, because the pedal will automatically set up as stereo.
The pedal that will split the signal leaving the TU-2 out of the chain, is the Line Selector. But then again, you'll have the LS-2 IN the chain to leave the TU-2 OUT of the chain, so you'll end up having the same number of pedals in the chain LOL. |
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Order of pedals and effects loop, or not?
