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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2006 :  07:24:05  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
hello fellow boss lovers. i currently own a MT-2 and really like the tone of it. however i find it lacks on the bottom end. ive been thinking of picking up an MD-2. just wondering how the MD-2 is in comparison to the MT-2...similar tone? do the two pedals really differ that much in sound quality?

All replies appreciated. thanks

jack
Platinum Member

USA
1418 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2006 :  08:27:04  Show Profile  Visit jack's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I love the MT-2, but I love it even more after I got it modded by Keeley. More gain and clarity. More usable EQ. More bottom. More everything. Check out the Robert Keeley website http://www.robertkeeley.com and listen to the sound bites. The price of the mod is about the same, or cheaper, than a new MD-2.
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2006 :  08:49:39  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
ah. good advice jack. i didnt even think to get it modded. ill consider it, but im still interested in the md2
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svengali
Bronze Member

Australia
111 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2006 :  08:57:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hello

i have an md 2, and its great!
lots of bottom end, heaps actually.
it has a bass knob which dials up more than i can use.
this pedal is underrated.
it is a modern scooped mid metal sounding pedal, but you can just turn it all down for a bit of crunch. when turned up it goes deep into monster territory.
i do not have an mt 2, but i remember playing one and thinking.."i do not want one of these".
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Vim Fuego
Gold Member

Denmark
566 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2006 :  10:17:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just "discovered" the HM-3.. I think thats a great distortion..

Cheers
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visserman
Platinum Member

1072 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2006 :  15:41:01  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StratoSphere

hello fellow boss lovers. i currently own a MT-2 and really like the tone of it. however i find it lacks on the bottom end. ive been thinking of picking up an MD-2. just wondering how the MD-2 is in comparison to the MT-2...similar tone? do the two pedals really differ that much in sound quality?

All replies appreciated. thanks



Like what Svengali said: MD-2 does have a lot more bass, but you do not need to use that feature, so you could dial in a subtle setting and end up with some crunchy tones.

The MT-2 is far better at creating a LOT of DIFFERENT tones, great for 70s sound but also great [and that is probably what most people will use it for] for getting a more 80s and modern rock sound. Pedal was based on a modded 80s Marshall and when you try them out you can see what people mean by this.

Vim Fuego mentioned his just "discovered" the HM-3, just wondering if he knows the HM-2 as well? Both pedals sound and look very similar.

Both pedals can be great for creating your own Fuzz sound: Put a TW-1 after them and you will have a lovely warm Fuzz sound. [the TW-1 will act as a bright booster in this set-up]
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kulten
Gold Member

France
516 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2006 :  16:30:09  Show Profile  Visit kulten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
still convinced that the FZ-2 is the most beautifull and powerfull distorted sound in the universe...

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arcanon1313
Silver Member

USA
414 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2006 :  17:16:41  Show Profile  Click to see arcanon1313's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
While I agree that the HM-2/HM-3 do sound similer, I do have to say that the HM-3 has a more usable gain range, and a Better EQ than the HM-2!
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StratoSphere
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Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2006 :  17:35:59  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
thanks for the replys. im gonna keep an eye out for an MD-2 and now a HM-3.
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Vim Fuego
Gold Member

Denmark
566 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2006 :  22:49:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by visserman

Vim Fuego mentioned his just "discovered" the HM-3, just wondering if he knows the HM-2 as well? Both pedals sound and look very similar.

Both pedals can be great for creating your own Fuzz sound: Put a TW-1 after them and you will have a lovely warm Fuzz sound. [the TW-1 will act as a bright booster in this set-up]



Actually I have a HM-2 MIJ which I dont really like.. Maybe I just have to fiddle with it some more? But I think it seems quite limited.. To me the HM-3 has a lot more BxLLS..

Thanks for the tip with the TW-1 .. surely it will keep me off the streets tomorrow.

Cheers
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alpine_56
Copper Member

USA
49 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2006 :  23:08:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The MD-2 is a great pedal,it can be a little muddy sounding sometimes though. I would check on getting it modded and your MT-2 if you don't want to do it, or try some mods yourself. I like getting ideas from:http://www.guitartone.net/purchase.html#faq. I know some people like to keep all their pedals original, and that is fine with me. What I like to do is get a couple of each to mod one and leave the other stock.

Andrew
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visserman
Platinum Member

1072 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2006 :  14:42:31  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Vim Fuego

quote:
Originally posted by visserman

Vim Fuego mentioned his just "discovered" the HM-3, just wondering if he knows the HM-2 as well? Both pedals sound and look very similar.

Both pedals can be great for creating your own Fuzz sound: Put a TW-1 after them and you will have a lovely warm Fuzz sound. [the TW-1 will act as a bright booster in this set-up]



Actually I have a HM-2 MIJ which I dont really like.. Maybe I just have to fiddle with it some more? But I think it seems quite limited.. To me the HM-3 has a lot more BxLLS..

Thanks for the tip with the TW-1 .. surely it will keep me off the streets tomorrow.

Cheers



Yeah I think you are right, Goran mentioned the issue of the distortion control on the HM-2 before as in that it only acts in the frist halve of the turn and from there on seems to be fairly passive. Seems that Rolanded corrected that issue with the HM-3.

Seems that the MT-2 is the next one up compared to the HM-3, even more balls and flexablility.
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2006 :  21:10:14  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i have a ds1 mij and a 0d2 and fz3 mit on my pedalboard,i find the guitar has a lot to do with how the pedal sounds,iuse a clapton strat(active pickups) and a 89 usa strat(passive pickups)i found for my set up the passive strat works best, the ds1 i use now as my 'crunch' sound the fz3 is for heavy distortion and lead with the od2 kicked in behind it.I think boss pedals work best with guitars with weaker pickups, i had volume issues and a muddy sound with the active pickups into the overdrive and ds1 especially,i also think they work best straight into the the input of the amp,that includes chorus,flangers,chorus..etc.... i use 9 boss pedals on my pedalboard and am currently looking for a bf2 and ph2 ..
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Briggs
Copper Member

USA
40 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2006 :  17:06:20  Show Profile  Send Briggs a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
nice thread

I think modding some boss pedals makes them come alive

however there are boss pedals that don't even need mods

for example, the OD-3

Briggs

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lazzrath
Bronze Member

Canada
103 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2006 :  20:58:38  Show Profile  Click to see lazzrath's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It's hard for me to say this because I love Boss so much, but I think people severely overrate that MT-2. I really strongly dislike the sound of this pedal at a performance volume - sounds like a jar of bumblebees at any and every setting. It's great for small amps to really make them sound huge and add that compression and sustain, but it's really not a useable tone. I mean, it was a great idea on Boss' part (also a great business idea, as it was the best selling compact dist. for a long time!), being the first pedal of it's kind with the sheer amount of gain that it has - it was extremely innovative at it's inception - but in all honesty, it's not a performance pedal. Too chunky, and not enough natural tone.

And for the record, all the current Analog Man/Keeley/etc. mods out there totally change the tone of this pedal, it ultimately turns this pedals into something completely different - it's not really an MT-2 anymore. Most times there is a chip change, and with all the other ins and outs, it turns into an expensive mod comparatively.

But it sure makes that old Rage 158 kick.



You ever get that feeling that everyone is just staring at you in disbelief? I'm feeling that right now...
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2006 :  21:44:34  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i completely agree with lazzrath. i find the MT-2 is unbeatable at low to moderate volume. however, when you turn up loud, it totally buzzes up. sounds too shrill even with mids and highs turned low. An EH-2 at the end of your chain helps a lot tonewise, but it still isnt great.

thats one reason why i wanted to know more about the MD-2. i know some prefer the MD-2 over the MT-2, but how do they compare at high volumes?
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