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Gizzorge
Silver Member

USA
245 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2007 :  16:17:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Curious to hear what you think? Is it better than the RC-20 XL.

Does the XL have drum machine patterns built in to it as well?

Which is easier to work with , etc.........

Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2007 :  16:23:12  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Gizzorge

Short Punks(aka Short Punks In Love), on this forum, is using it in his live gigs.
And in the recording studio.

It sound very cool, in his recordings, that I have heard.

Although I haven't see a pot from him for a while.
I'll PM him, he mails me somtimes, just to keep in touch & when he sends out his gig guide.

Regards Dr. Bob
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2007 :  22:39:07  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i love the RC-2 in every way. the only problem i have with it is its a tad frustrating to use sometimes. the RC-20 with its duo footswitches looks much easier to use.
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bosshog
Silver Member

Canada
493 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2007 :  17:45:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just got one yesterday. Haven't got dirty with it yet.
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nosi0
Gold Member

Netherlands
511 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2007 :  06:59:03  Show Profile  Visit nosi0's Homepage  Click to see nosi0's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
adding a FS-6 to your RC-2 makes it easy and simple to use. RC-2 with no FS-6 is much harder to use.
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ronster
Gold Member

Australia
645 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2007 :  13:39:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I agree. Great for a compact pedal but needs one or two extra foot switches to help operate it.
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fuzzface
Bronze Member

United Kingdom
121 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2007 :  19:34:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just got one of these today (got a cracking deal and couldn't resist! )

I've played with it for an hour or so and I'd say it's one of the few Boss compact pedals where the manual is definitely necessary. An external footswitch is also needed to really unlock this pedal too.

Anyway, it's good fun to play about with and I managed to create some pretty interesting soundscapes with it.

Not sure how I feel about the RC-2 yet as I still think it's a bit too fiddly for a compact pedal. I may learn to love it but I might eventually upgrade to the RC-20.
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Gizzorge
Silver Member

USA
245 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2007 :  22:23:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does the RC-20XL have drum patterns built in like the RC-2?
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2007 :  03:18:30  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Guys

Does the RC-2 retain the loops that are in memory, when you power it down & move it to a gig or back home?

Or do you have to reload them, every time you use it.

Regards Dr. Bob.
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shortpunks
Copper Member

USA
47 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2007 :  03:35:47  Show Profile  Visit shortpunks's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The RC-2 retains all the loops in its memory even after powering down. I've had some keyboard loops programmed into mine since I first got it last November...! The one thing to keep in mind is that if you add parts to the loops already in the memory, you have to save any additions before powering down (you just turn the function knob to "Write," press down the rectangular button, and you're done).
Recently I got an opto-synth, theremin-like device from a fellow in Detroit, so I've been using that to program loops...the RC-2 has really become a big part of our live sound.
(p.s. If you want to see it in action, go to the "Show Your Pedalboard" thread and you can see the RC-2 in action at a gig a couple of weeks ago...thanks, Dr. Bob, for correcting the link I put up...!)
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2007 :  03:53:49  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shortpunks

The RC-2 retains all the loops in its memory even after powering down. I've had some keyboard loops programmed into mine since I first got it last November...! The one thing to keep in mind is that if you add parts to the loops already in the memory, you have to save any additions before powering down (you just turn the function knob to "Write," press down the rectangular button, and you're done).
Recently I got an opto-synth, theremin-like device from a fellow in Detroit, so I've been using that to program loops...the RC-2 has really become a big part of our live sound.
(p.s. If you want to see it in action, go to the "Show Your Pedalboard" thread and you can see the RC-2 in action at a gig a couple of weeks ago...thanks, Dr. Bob, for correcting the link I put up...!)



Hi shortpunks
Thanks for the reply.
It was one of those questions that I wanted to ask, before looking at one.
I've been doing short loop into my DL4 delay modeler, but am limited to 14 to 28 seconds.

Any chance of getting a top view pic of your setup?

What's the opto-theremin like?
I built one, back in about lat 80's, & I still have it SOMEWHERE
Any sound samples of it anywhere on the web?

The last two CD's you sent me, are great, lots of my friends have made the same positive comment, keep up the great work, say hi to Pearl.
They now live on my iPod.

Regards Dr. Bob
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DeFrag
Moderator

USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2007 :  08:57:41  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The RC-2 has about 30 or so rhythm patterns where the RC-20XL only has about 8 as I remember. The XL sports a full 16 min of loops like the RC-2 but the RC-20 (no XL) only had about 5 min.
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Caliban
Bronze Member

United Kingdom
145 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2007 :  09:50:41  Show Profile  Click to see Caliban's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I've been trying to work out which of the Boss loopers to get....There are a few places selling RC20XL's for only a few quid more than RC2 at the moment.

One thing I did notice is that the RC20 has separate mic and guitar inputs, so you can do that KT Tunstall thing, looping guitar and vocals, without the need for external switches. This may or may not be important....
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Alice
Bronze Member

USA
66 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2007 :  03:35:14  Show Profile  Visit Alice's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Is it true that there's a minimum sampling time with the RC-2? Like your samples have to be at least so many seconds long?

-Alice
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shortpunks
Copper Member

USA
47 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2007 :  04:22:19  Show Profile  Visit shortpunks's Homepage  Reply with Quote
As far as I can tell, there's no minimum sample time on the RC-2. The shortest sample I've done so far was one chord, about two beats in duration, and that worked just fine. What's great about recording short samples is that you can set the RC-2 for one-shot playback, so you can trigger the sample and restart it just by hitting the pedal, which is great if you want to trigger the sample over and over again on the first beat of a measure...you can really get those wild sounds you hear on "Only Shallow" from MBV's "Loveless."
I recorded a song a few months back where I just triggered that one chord and "played" the RC-2 instead of the guitar. Back in the day, I used to make samples and loops with my RV-3, so the RC-2 has been really inspiring.
Glad you're still enjoying the CDs, Dr. Bob...we're in rehearsals right now for the third CD. I think you'll like it...and there's lots more RC-2 loops on this one and a lot of new guitar sounds...meanwhile, I posted a new pic of my live board on the pedalboard thread!
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Some Weird Sin
Bronze Member

Netherlands
73 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  10:51:37  Show Profile  Visit Some Weird Sin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think there is a minimum sampling time of 2 seconds, but that's usually not a problem.

I agree with others who say that you need the extra footswitch. Live I use the RC-2 mainly for sampling. The loop function I use at home when I'm writing.

It's a great pedal, but you definitely need the manual.
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