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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
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Posted - 07/15/2006 :  18:15:43  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i put my fz3 back on my new pedalboard to fatten out my single notes (and it looked sad all on its own in the corner of the room))... at the moment im using my od2 after the fuzz to boost the signal but some people make out you should put it before the fuzz....would i still get the same amount of boost...? as trying this in the house at gigging levels isn't really an option at the moment...and a another thing i noticed is that if the od2 is in non turbo mode it doesn't sound great mixed with the fz3,in turbo its fine...in fact i think it sounds great but i'm getting a little to much feedback so ithought to use it in non turbo mode but the sound gets a bit 'spluttery' my idea was that an overdrive is like a tube amp turned up and the fz3 pushing it...ie clapton in his cream days..fuzzface into a marshall stack....wuld a diffrent overdrive be better as in the od3...?....

StratoSphere
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Canada
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Posted - 07/15/2006 :  18:31:47  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
my opinion is you should try a lighter overdrive. i recommend the SD-1. i use this to drive my distortion regularly. i like to put the SD-1 before the fuzz. try it out
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tomwest
Silver Member

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/16/2006 :  23:43:13  Show Profile  Visit tomwest's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Its not an overdrive but to smooth out fuzz (particularly with my Fender Blender) i put my Small Clone chorus infront of it set with a low rate (so it wont really affect the sound a lot) and it really smooths it out and pulls it together, so its not as sputtery and fizzy.
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GuitarStv
Copper Member

Canada
39 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2006 :  14:15:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think you're on the right track with the OD after the fuzz. Try setting the overdrive to be as clean as possible with a bit of a volume boost, with your fuzz behind it. Then when you kick on the fuzz you'll get fuzz, with the OD you'll get louder fuzzier OD, and with the OD alone you'll get a volume boost.
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SirJackdeFuzz
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South Africa
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Posted - 07/17/2006 :  23:14:14  Show Profile  Visit SirJackdeFuzz's Homepage  Click to see SirJackdeFuzz's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
YES, i too use alot of OD after/with my fuzz.

FWIW, here is my current chain:

Ibanez Artcore full-hollow psycobilly-box, into . . .

EQ -->Big Muff -->*BD2/SD1/TS9 -->Small Clone -->DE7 -->Micro Amp -->Blues Jr.


* . . . depends on what kind of OD i need at the time.


Later
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Dingus
Silver Member

USA
472 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2006 :  14:37:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SirJackdeFuzz: I just picked up an Ibanez Artcore the other day, I was impressed in the first place, and after I tweaked the height on a few things (mainly the neck pickup) I am absolutely amazed. I also put 11's (strings) on it, since the 10's that were on it seemed too small for the nut, I think they come from the factory with 11's or at least the one I was playing with at Guitar Center had 11's.

Anyway which model do you have? I have the AS73, and I just picked it up in mint condition for $150, which is a helluva deal for a hollow-body that isn't crap.

I'd get rid of that DE-7 and replace it with something more useful like a DL-4. Otherwise that's a pretty cool set of peds.

Also I'm probably gonna upgrade mine with a Gibson '57 Classic Pickup (neck), and a Gibson '57 Classic Plus Pickup (bridge).

Those are what are on the ES-335's they currently put out, and even though it'll cost me like $200 to upgrade the pickups, it'll be worth it since I got such a sweet deal on the guitar in the first place.



Edited by - Dingus on 07/18/2006 14:39:05
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SirJackdeFuzz
Bronze Member

South Africa
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Posted - 07/18/2006 :  17:57:05  Show Profile  Visit SirJackdeFuzz's Homepage  Click to see SirJackdeFuzz's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Ahh, congrats on your new Artcore . . .

. . . this must be the best kept, "not so secret", secret !!!

I too use 11's on mine.
(AG 75 full hollow)

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g317/bluetone73/Artcore002.jpg

I am thinking about getting some SD Phat Cats for this one, but still need to hear some good sound clips. (heard some dodgy ones)



This is me trying out my next Artcore . . .

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g317/bluetone73/NextGuitar.jpg


(this was taken in July last year, in Germany, and for the life of me, i can not locate another Blue Burst like the one, anyware in the world)
When i do get this one - probably end of Sept. - I would like to get the Custom Eastwood pu's.
Acording to the Eastwood site ($75 each) it is VERY close to the tone of the White Stripes, so i hope that it will compliment the semi-hollow's personality !!!


'Bout the DE7, I got it for free, so can not complain, and have no funds for a DL-4, though i would love to get one, soon !!! (but for now, all my finances are going toward the next Artcore, even though it will probably NOT be the Blue Burst - bugger, should have bought it when i could, damn it)


PS, this is going to sound funny, but Gibson pu's is VERY hard to come by here in South Africa - SD's are easier to get, hence be opting for the Humbucker size P90's.

Post a PIC of your Artcore, if you can, would love to see it !


Later



Edited by - SirJackdeFuzz on 07/18/2006 18:01:26
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
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Posted - 07/19/2006 :  21:13:23  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
sir jack what do you think of the blues junior as a amp in general....? i'm thinking of buying two to run in stereo in place of my musicman/marshall amps because of basically we have a 2k rig and we mike everything so volume is not an issue...do they stay clean to decent volume levels and are they reliable.. i'm still looking for a decent valve amp i can use without any distortion pedals and just use my mod/delay effects...i have a strat with the clapton system so i can drive the amp from the guitar and i like simple one channel amps like the blues jr so any feedback would be helpful....
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SirJackdeFuzz
Bronze Member

South Africa
83 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  23:04:13  Show Profile  Visit SirJackdeFuzz's Homepage  Click to see SirJackdeFuzz's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hi Franzoni

. . . plain and simple, I LOVE THIS AMP !!!

Saying that, it was not my first option, though.

Let me explain.

I was after the Peavey Classic 30, BUT, there is a min. of a 3 month waiting list in this country for them, so i took the Bues Jr., (not wanting the cheaper Peavey Valve King) and there is only a �40.00 price diff. between the C30 & Blues Jr. (don't even try to ask )

I find the amp to be ok with a drummer (19 year old girl/woman - she's no lady though)+(that is her words, btw), and that is UN-mic'ed.
OK, so she is no skin-thrasher either.
Max'd out, you do get some (very little) tube saturation, but i love that.
I don't think the C30 would produce that amount of NATURAL valve over drive at that volume, so the lilte 'un is perfect for me !!!

Seeing that you are gonna get mic'd, I'd say no problem at all !!!
I have the amp for less than 6 months, so for reliability, i can not comment on - so far, so good.
My next set of valves will be some, JJ Sovtek's, as every site on the net says it is the best money can by, and i do need a spare set. Never know when they might scream, "ENOUGH"

I am also looking into a replacement speaker.
There is NOTHING wrong with the stock item, period.
I just want one to say, "hey, i have a Vintage 30 in my amp, ala, SLASH"
The Vintage 30 is more efficient though, resulting in a slight volume increase over the entier sweep of the vol. knob, resuslting in slightly more clean headroom.
(thinking of it now, that might not suite me)
PS.
I also use an MXR Micro Amp to boost the volume (always on), but that is more to hit the pre-amp valves harder, to get even more tube overdrive, not really for more vol.

Seeing that this is a one channel amp, does not mean it is a one trick-pony either.
This amp loves pedals.
Fender is well known for their clean tones, thus all the pedals that i tried (mine, and friends) are very clear, articulate, and transparent, ie. the amp does not alter the tone of the stompbox.
From my cheapy Boss SD-1 (great warm OD) right to a �450, H&K TUBEMAN, works soo well with it, you can cover from crtistal clear Jazz, right past good old fashion Classic Rock up to Metal tones, with the right dirt boxes !!!

The stereo effect is also something that i looked into, and when funds allow, i too wanna pair the Blues Jr. with a Laney VC15.
I can not justify to buy two of the same amps to run in stereo, but something else, oh YES PLEASE !!!
The sound clips that i heard on the net sound very good, and thus will (hopefully) create a big enough diff. but still vintage voiced, so that they compliment one another, but that is only the end of next year's plans !!!

In a nut shell, this amp is the biggest, "not-so-secret-secret"
Worth every penny !!!
You cannot go wrong . . .


. . . after-all, it's a FENDER !


Later
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