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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
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Posted - 05/07/2008 :  02:16:39  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This is my current dilemma - I have the purchase price of the DD-7 stashed away, but I really want it for the "analogue sound" - should I skip the DD-7 and just get a DM-2? Just how good is the analogue mode on the DD7 and can it replace a DM-2?

Also wondering what people have paid recently for a DM-2 and what seems fair right now?

Edited by - Laurie on 05/07/2008 02:23:53

DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 05/07/2008 :  05:08:17  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I don't have the DM-2 but reports state the Analog mode on the DD-7 trails distinct echoes instead of the DM-2's running together. I'd have to say the DD-7 is the better choice for sheer value of functionality.

Edited by - DeFrag on 05/07/2008 06:56:21
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Gizzorge
Silver Member

USA
245 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2008 :  05:45:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah the Dm-2 smears together, but yo have way more control, time, etc with the DD-7. I love being able to tap tempo it.
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
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Posted - 05/07/2008 :  07:04:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
DM-2 sounds very, very good, it has a great thickening/fattening effect of the tone I never heard on any other delay. Thatīs all there is about DM-2, and of course the ability to oscillate in a nice way.
DD-7 can do a lot more of course, and I suppose youīre after more than the analogue simulation.
I have DD-20 and the analogue simulation on that one is quite close to DM-2/3, but not there, I would guess that DD-7 is about the same.
Anyway I would certainly go for DD-7 if I didnīt have any delay.
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zentropa
Gold Member

USA
837 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2008 :  08:56:24  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Laurie:

i would say go DM-2/DM-3 at the right price. you can always get a DD-7. takes a lot of patience for one of the others :)
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
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Posted - 05/07/2008 :  09:21:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zentropa

Laurie:

i would say go DM-2/DM-3 at the right price. you can always get a DD-7. takes a lot of patience for one of the others :)


True!
But DM-2/3īs are often much overpriced, due to the collector value.
In a band situation no one would hear the difference anyway.

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zentropa
Gold Member

USA
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Posted - 05/07/2008 :  09:27:01  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
@$160 though, the DD-7 is pretty expensive as well.

w/ the US economy tanking as it is, a DM-2 or DM-3 in the $175-225 range should be easily doable.

given some time, used DD-7's will pop up in the $100-120 range.
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sp-1
Platinum Member

Germany
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Posted - 05/07/2008 :  09:52:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would definitely buy a DM-2 if I were looking for a analog sound 'cause the DM-2 IS analog, the DD-7 imitates a analog sound....

Like Boobs, silicone implants(dd-7) makes it all look firmer and bigger (controlable, longer delay) but it ain't the real deal when you're playing around with 'm (dd-7, dm-2)
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 05/07/2008 :  10:09:04  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sp-1

I would definitely buy a DM-2 if I were looking for a analog sound 'cause the DM-2 IS analog, the DD-7 imitates a analog sound....

Like Boobs, silicone implants(dd-7) makes it all look firmer and bigger (controlable, longer delay) but it ain't the real deal when you're playing around with 'm (dd-7, dm-2)



Hi SP-1

DM-2 is that like Digital Mammary 2?
Great analogy, I will have to pass it on to my other muso friends.

It's scary to think of what DM-3 stands for...
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
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Posted - 05/07/2008 :  13:06:04  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I never played any of the boss analog delays but if the CE-2 is any sort of watermark to go by...go for the real deal.....my CE-2 leaves my CH-1 in the dust.....and there is a 10/12 year difference in my two DD-3's and the older one is defo more 'analogue' sounding,i search old car boot sales ans secondhand shops all the time in hope of stumbling across any of the DM series delays.....
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
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Posted - 05/07/2008 :  14:54:52  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for all the opinions guys!

I have a "clinical" digital delay (Behringer DD100) plus an RV-3 so am not looking for a general purpose delay pedal, but rather the "old skool" delay sound. From your info above, it sounds like a DM-2 is the way to go... I'm thinking the DD-7 will have to wait <sigh> - although as Zentropa mentioned, it will be possible to find a used one before too too long.
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Mat Grant
Copper Member

United Kingdom
25 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2008 :  18:31:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

My 2 cents.....

My heart would say get the DM2, but my head would say get the DD7 Hows that for sitting on the fence???

I've got a DM2, it is brilliant for using into an already overdriven amp, the pedal sits nicely and it just sounds great. But for using into a clean amp, the DD3 and PS2 I've got have much stronger clearer delays.

I think it depends on what amp you're using, what sound you're going for and how much variety you need.

I've not actually heard the DD7 so can't comment on how good the analogue simulation is, but if it's good it's probably the sensible choice.

But then one other factor is that the DM2 is likely to keep its value and maybe even go up, whereas the DD7 will lose value, unless you buy second hand.

Cheers, Mat.
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Johnrocks
Silver Member

Brazil
175 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2008 :  21:33:31  Show Profile  Visit Johnrocks's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Did you call my name people?? LOL!
Iīm a HUGE DM-2 fan and of course I have mine. I have amazing cables and the DM-2 sounds like if I were in heaven. Having awsome cables really makes the difference. So I use to say that my DM-2 is a DD-2! LOL! I use it not only as a delay but for ambience too. In case you are into The Edge I think that DD-2, DD-3 would be satisfy your needs. I think that DD-20 and DD-7 they donīt really emulate DD-2. Itīs more like "DD-2 wannabies". So I prefer the original. Get DD-2 or DD-3 and try to get the DM-2. They sound amazing if u put them together.
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jaymzHal
Silver Member

United Kingdom
297 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2008 :  15:54:21  Show Profile  Visit jaymzHal's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm a very big fan of my dm-2, but I only use it at home simply because tap tempo is so damn useful, so I use by Behringer dd-100 with the hidden tap tempo function for that . However, I want to get a dd-20. I've tried one out a few times and I love it, with the built in tap tempo and the ability to tap whole notes and get back triplets and stuff. To have that ability on a dd-6 or 7 I think you need an additional footswitch, so you might as well get a dd-20...but then, that's just me. The DD-7 does look rather fantastic. I think DM-2's are only going to go up in value as everyone who realises how good they are buys them up. I wouldn't sell my dm-2 simply due to it's excellent condition and sound. As an aside, in the latest edition of Guitarist magazine in the UK there was an interview with Billy Duffy from the cult, apparently on the intros and verses to a few songs (including the classic "she sells sanctuary" - see vid) he uses both a dm-2 at maximum and a dd-3 at double that (about 600 m/s) into a Roland Jazz chorus with the chorus on. He also uses a DD-3 maxed out for solos on the advice of Steve Stevens.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NuQXS-AP_to
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Johnrocks
Silver Member

Brazil
175 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2008 :  20:48:37  Show Profile  Visit Johnrocks's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jaymzHal

I'm a very big fan of my dm-2, but I only use it at home simply because tap tempo is so damn useful, so I use by Behringer dd-100 with the hidden tap tempo function for that . However, I want to get a dd-20. I've tried one out a few times and I love it, with the built in tap tempo and the ability to tap whole notes and get back triplets and stuff. To have that ability on a dd-6 or 7 I think you need an additional footswitch, so you might as well get a dd-20...but then, that's just me. The DD-7 does look rather fantastic. I think DM-2's are only going to go up in value as everyone who realises how good they are buys them up. I wouldn't sell my dm-2 simply due to it's excellent condition and sound. As an aside, in the latest edition of Guitarist magazine in the UK there was an interview with Billy Duffy from the cult, apparently on the intros and verses to a few songs (including the classic "she sells sanctuary" - see vid) he uses both a dm-2 at maximum and a dd-3 at double that (about 600 m/s) into a Roland Jazz chorus with the chorus on. He also uses a DD-3 maxed out for solos on the advice of Steve Stevens.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NuQXS-AP_to

I thought that it was a BF-2! Sometimes I think about that song when Iīm playing with my BF-2 and sme distortion.
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Johnrocks
Silver Member

Brazil
175 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2008 :  20:52:26  Show Profile  Visit Johnrocks's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"He also uses a DD-3 maxed out for solos on the advice of Steve Stevens." --> Again! This the 3rd time this week I read a post that says what Iīve been doing about delays (DM-2 + DD-3).
Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Iīm not alone!
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