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Casino
Copper Member
USA
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 Posted - 02/27/2009 : 20:48:29
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I'm thinking of buying the new ME-70. I need a compressor and I want to buy the Boss rotary speaker RT-20, but I find it is actually cheaper to buy the ME-70 which has over forty different Boss stomp boxes in it! How can that be?
How can an ME-70 have over forty effects pedals in it, yet be so cheap? We are talking $4,000 if I were to buy each pedal individually, yet the ME-70 is just $300. There has to be a catch. Is the catch a significant loss in tone quality on the ME-70? For instance is the flange effect on the ME sub-par in comparison to a stand alone Boss Flanger pedal?
40 stomp boxes in one unit for just $300??? When something is too good to be true, it is too good to be true. What's the catch here?
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2009 : 21:02:05
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Moving to other Boss  |
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sneaky103
Copper Member
USA
25 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2009 : 06:06:09
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Well, it's not like the actual circuitry of the 40 stompboxes is in there. That would be some feat (kinda' as impressive as the innards of a MZ-2--waaaay packed in there!).
It's computer chips, and as time has passed since many of those boxes came out the first time, chips have gotten smaller and a LOT, a LOT LOT cheaper...hence the low price, multi-effects that are "based" on previous BOSS sounds but are really just digital models.
That's my 2�...they're not necessarily bad. They're just not the 40 stompboxes. |
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member
United Kingdom
400 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2009 : 10:25:37
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| Also, a big part of the cost of a stomp box is the case: With multifx, you're not paying for 40 cases... |
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sp-1
Platinum Member
Germany
1454 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2009 : 11:07:12
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I once bought a cheap 'best of' cd of 'the animals', turned out to be a cd with old songs ('house of the rising sun' etc) but re-recorded in the the 80's.
Same band, same songs but not the real deal.
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Casino
Copper Member
USA
21 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2009 : 21:01:09
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Originally posted by sneaky103
...hence the low price, multi-effects that are "based" on previous BOSS sounds but are really just digital models.
That explains it. Thanks.
Still, $300 is a heck of a fine price. |
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nion
Silver Member
USA
164 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2009 : 22:33:09
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Originally posted by sp-1
I once bought a cheap 'best of' cd of 'the animals', turned out to be a cd with old songs ('house of the rising sun' etc) but re-recorded in the the 80's.
Same band, same songs but not the real deal.
That's a damn good analogy. |
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starr36
Platinum Member
Canada
1172 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2009 : 04:46:10
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I just bought a Boss GT8 a last week for $300.
it kicks ass. especially using it setup the 4 cable method.
I get stereo everything, guitar synth too. A aomplete steal for the entire arsenal of goodies in it.
My summary:
pedals give you simplicity, straightup
mfx - give you a whole whack of complexity for the all night tweek freeks, who want to conveniently experiment for recording and other purposes.
the GT8 as an OD patch, and well, it doesn't sound like a real OD 1., but it sure does give you a creamy distortion that is very very useable. |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2009 : 06:36:59
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hi starr36
have you downloaded and read the "Boss GT-8 Brilliance.pdf"
it's a great adjunct to the user manual.
feel free to PM me if you don't have it, or can't locate it on the web.
i have been printing off hard copies for all the guys at work, and their friends, when we do laser printer testing, and new cartridge break-in at work.
beats 95 pages of random latin boiler-plate text...
regards dr. bob |
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PaulH
Gold Member
535 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2009 : 10:35:14
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Originally posted by starr36
I just bought a Boss GT8 a last week for $300.
it kicks ass. especially using it setup the 4 cable method.
I get stereo everything, guitar synth too. A aomplete steal for the entire arsenal of goodies in it.
My summary:
pedals give you simplicity, straightup
mfx - give you a whole whack of complexity for the all night tweek freeks, who want to conveniently experiment for recording and other purposes.
the GT8 as an OD patch, and well, it doesn't sound like a real OD 1., but it sure does give you a creamy distortion that is very very useable.
Got my GT8 a few weeks ago.
It's actually very easy to use & program.
I assume you've found, and registered with, http://bossgtcentral.com/forum/
As to wether multi-effects are better?
It's a bit like asking someone with hifi seperates to change it for an all-in one ghetto blaster.
Oh, and I'm all for hifi-seperates... I may well listen to most stuff on the PC nowadays, but I've no intention of ever getting rid of my Linn LP12. |
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starr36
Platinum Member
Canada
1172 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2009 : 01:30:55
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Originally posted by Dr. Bob
hi starr36
have you downloaded and read the "Boss GT-8 Brilliance.pdf"
it's a great adjunct to the user manual.
feel free to PM me if you don't have it, or can't locate it on the web.
i have been printing off hard copies for all the guys at work, and their friends, when we do laser printer testing, and new cartridge break-in at work.
beats 95 pages of random latin boiler-plate text...
regards dr. bob
Thanks for posting this. I downloaded this file on your recommendation and while the GT-8 owner's manual explains how to change settings, it doesn't at all tell you how to actually USE it and get good sound, apart from just going through pre-sets and using them as a base to make your own sounds from.
I will be losing some sleep for sure, trying out the tips in this 95 pager! |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2009 : 00:06:23
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| HOw good could those 40 effects be. if they cram it all in the one package |
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Tonealicious
Copper Member
Australia
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Posted - 03/06/2009 : 07:17:52
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob
hi starr36
have you downloaded and read the "Boss GT-8 Brilliance.pdf"
it's a great adjunct to the user manual.
feel free to PM me if you don't have it, or can't locate it on the web.
i have been printing off hard copies for all the guys at work, and their friends, when we do laser printer testing, and new cartridge break-in at work.
beats 95 pages of random latin boiler-plate text...
regards dr. bob
Hey I wrote* that! Glad it helps you all.
*wrote = edited collated and layed out - people much smarter than me came up with the concepts. |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2009 : 15:05:54
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Hi Tonealicious
Welcome to the forum.
Thanks for all your hard work compiling such a useful document.
I was sort of wondering if you would gravitate over here to Bossarea now again.
Do you still have much to do with, or play with the GT-8, Boss or any other pedals?
Can I ask you about the section on the ring modulator settings near the end of your compiled document?
It says something about the "Special Number 24" setting, are you able to clarify this bit for me?
What is Special about the number 24?
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12. The Ring Mod. in the GT-8 is really very good and can produce some amazingly useful effects. Avoid the pitfall
of ignoring this monster by learning about the special number �24� !!!!
14. The above points are just thrown into the void. All points have been confirmed by Boss & Roland. The bloke I
spoke to really liked the fact about the number 24 and it�s derivatives in the intelligent Ring Mod.
15. Try setting it to 98 some time and play quickly up on the 2nd string 12th fret and higher, and LISTEN TO THE
SOUND SPEED UP BEHIND YOU AS YOU PLAY.....
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Tonealicious
Copper Member
Australia
3 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2009 : 11:25:27
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Originally posted by Dr. Bob
I was sort of wondering if you would gravitate over here to Bossarea now again.
Slow day at work, you know how it is! BTW Dr, I'm in Perth over the other side of Oz.
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Do you still have much to do with, or play with the GT-8, Boss or any other pedals?
Yep, I got a -10 6 months ago, but its so big , so fricken silver and blue, with a change of band and other factors ie time to tweak, I've been gravitating back to my tube amps and a few stomps, or my Vox Valvetronix at a pinch.
All my stomps are Boss except a Digi BM and a Danelectro. I picked up a loaded BCB-6 on the bay that looked like it had been sealed in 1989. CE-2, DD-2-,PSM-5, HM-2 and OS-2 all MIJ and all mint for 400 AU. Score!
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Can I ask you about the section on the ring modulator settings near the end of your compiled document?
It says something about the "Special Number 24" setting, are you able to clarify this bit for me?
What is Special about the number 24?
I'm not 100% but looking at the manual I'm gonna say its the frequency setting, perhaps its like a double octave above the original and therefore sounds better. I never got any sensible noise out of that effect myself!
Cheers
Tone
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