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NetStar
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 01/15/2009 : 12:15:22
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"Amazing Amps, Preamps, & FX
In addition to its stellar COSM amp models and effects, the ME-70 is outfitted with a new COSM Preamp section derived from BOSS’s GT-10 and Legend series. With the ME-70 you can dial up a world of tone, from classic to cutting-edge, and with simplicity and speed.
Stompbox Ease
It’s powerful and potent, yet the ME-70 offers the ease of a stompbox. The simple knob-based controls for each effect section makes dialing in tone easier than ever, especially with the innovative EZ Tone feature. And when you want to kick in an effect, just step on one of the four footswitches. Think of it as an array of stompboxes melded into one convenient pedalboard.
Phrase Looper
The ME-70’s Delay section is equipped with a dedicated Phrase Looper, which offers a lengthy 38 seconds of recording time. Play a riff, capture and loop it, and solo over it, all in real time onstage. Amaze your audience with multi-layered magic live onstage.
Extra Expression
Breathe life into your performances with the built-in Expression Pedal. Simply dial up one of the six pre-programmed pedal-control destinations (Wah, Voice, +1 Octave, -1 Octave, Mod Rate, and Delay Level), put your foot down, and express yourself."
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2009 : 14:25:15
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jaymzHal
Silver Member
United Kingdom
297 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2009 : 15:53:43
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| this has some really neat features. The amp modelling and distortions should be similar to what has gone before but the built in SLOW GEAR and T-WAH (up and down!) in the compression section is a fantastic move by Boss. I have no plans to get rid of my ME-50, one multi effects is enough for anyone, but if I didn't already have an ME-50 I'd be sorely tempted by this. |
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nosi0
Gold Member
Netherlands
511 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2009 : 00:34:02
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Damn you beat me to it hehe 
It looks good, unlike the GT-10. |
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red_riviera
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
111 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2009 : 01:03:03
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The distortion section only has about 1/2 the models of the ME-50, but the delay / looper section seems much better. As long as the delay ping-pongs in stereo, this could kick my trusty ME-50 off my looping rig.
Shame they lost the modulated-reverb though  |
Edited by - red_riviera on 01/16/2009 01:06:03 |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2009 : 02:22:19
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| it looks really cool i would like to try it out |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2009 : 02:30:24
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Heart and Soul
Silver Member
USA
369 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2009 : 18:35:58
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| this looks brilliant...i've hated the idea of multis for years but this one i'd consider... |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2009 : 23:57:55
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| it like pedals but its not. thats what i like about it |
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kipper15
Copper Member
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2009 : 19:21:51
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As an ME-50 owner, I was interested to see what BOSS would bring out as the replacement.
I've been reading up on this product since the NAMM announcement a few days ago, and also there are some good demos here:
Audio/MP3 clips:
http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/en/ME-70/
Video demo:
http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=1001&ParentId=46
For me to part with the cash and put my ME-50 on eBay I'd have to spend some serious time with the ME-70 to determine if it's worth 'upgrading'.
I've had the ME-50 for less than a year and I really do like it. I love the OD/distortion sounds personally, and the fact that you can recognise what they are emulating by their names (Fuzz, Scream, Guv, Rat, etc).
Also I would have to justify to the wife why I'm ditching something that I've had less than a year to replace it with something that (in her view) does the exact same thing!
I only play at home for fun so the ME-50's 'deficiencies' as a gigging unit are not things I need to worry about.
YMMV of course but it will take some convincing to get me to ditch the ME-50 long before I've even got started exploring what it can really do!
So...the jury is still very much out on this one for me....until I'm able to properly assess the product. I would have to weigh up what I gain with the ME-70 vs what I lost with the ME-50.
I for one am not so bothered about the preamp models. I use my ME-50 with a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe all-valve amp. So I don't really have a use for the preamp modelling stuff. I'm actually somewhat surprised that BOSS have included this - especially as it now makes it more like a GT-series box to a certain extent.
Phrase loop thing looks cool (as does the ability to store user patches without wiping the presets) but I don't know yet if it's better enough to convince me to 'upgrade'. It would be very easy just to go out and buy it because it's the newer model.
I already have an ME-50 so do I need it?
No.
Would I be cool if I did own it though?
Yes, almost certainly  |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2009 : 20:01:39
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| Welcome to the forum.......i agree..very good assessment..do we really need to upgrade to the latest model just for a few extra bells and whistles that you might not really use..? probably better off buying a RC-2 loop pedal instead if you want this option and don't need all the amp sims ... a mate of mine is in a similar situation about buying a strat... he was looking at the various models and had sort of settled on a hot rod strat(only plays at home,looking for a gilmour type of tone) until i pointed out that it wouldn't do what he was looking for and a normal strat would be better and cheaper option for him as gilmour has gone back to using his regular,passive black strat,they were looking for 2000 euro for the hotrod and he could pick up an american standard on gumtree or the buy and sell for about 500/700 euro or around 950 brand new in the shop..... |
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kipper15
Copper Member
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2009 : 21:53:57
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Thanks Franzoni, I have been lurking around here for a while but never got round to posting until now. I am somewhat surprised by the ME-70, not because they are 'upgrading' the previous product (ME-50) but I don't see how it's significantly better.
For example, I have just been looking at the specs more closely and I see these are the OD & Distortion sounds:
BOOST, NATURAL, OD-1, BLUES, DIST, CLASSIC, MODERN, METAL, CORE, FUZZ
It does seem odd - to me at least - that they've chosen to name only one of these after an actual pedal (OD-1) but the others in the OD/Dist category all have generic names (except, arguably, FUZZ).
On the ME-50 we got, among other things, modelled Tubescreamer (SCREAM), MXR Dist+ (DST+), Marshall Guvnor (GUV) and Pro Co Rat (RAT) pedals...along with a good selection of pedals modelled on Boss compacts (OD-1, BD-2, MT-2, etc). In fact with the 'variation' setting a total of 22 OD/Distortion sounds, with a really useful "Bottom" setting as part of the effect EQ.
Here I count 10 OD/Distortion sounds. Hmmmm.
The phrase loop feature may be fun though....and it's also useful to have the ability to store 36 user patches without overwriting the presets.
Just don't know yet if this is better enough for me to upgrade from my ME-50...especially as I've seen some UK retailers now advertising the ME-70 (they'll be available next month apparently) for around £270.
When you consider that I can pick up a brand new GT-10 for around £320 currently, there's not a massive price difference.
Except the GT-10 is way too complex for my needs and I want to focus on playing, not programming! |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2009 : 08:46:21
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Hi kipper15
Tough decision.
And to throw even more confusion into the equation.
The ME-70 has a wonderful "Voice Effect", controllable by the expression pedal.
I'm pretty sure that the GT-8 doesn't have this effect.
Or the reverse delay.
 Now I have to get out the manuals, & check.... 
The other Tough Decision...
Harmonious Marriage, verses New ME-70.
I pick the New ME-70, but it's the GAS talking...
Try coming home with (2) new multi's, a new guitar & a Boss compact, all in one afternoon...
And then testing them out for the next few hours.
Regards Dr. Bob
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kipper15
Copper Member
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2009 : 22:03:14
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Yikes Dr Bob! I'd better not be taking too much of your advice haha!
Well...to be honest, I think if I was going to 'upgrade' to the ME-70 I'm going to need some serious convincing. Now if I was to eventually move from the ME-50 to separate pedals (mostly BOSS of course!) that would be a big improvement...surely another multi is going to give me more of the same isn't it? Whereas the jump from a multi to individual stompboxes is going to be much more significant I don't know that a jump from the 50 to the 70 is worth it.
What I do find interesting is that some forums (the Harmony Central one being an example) are already talking about the ME-70 being "worse than an ME-50" and they haven't even heard it yet! That for me will be key....how does it SOUND?
IF...and I do mean IF...the sound of this thing somkes my ME-50 then of course I'd consider changing. But then again....GAS might just get the better of me. The black look of this thing is bloody cool!!!
Talking of GAS, I saw a very funny take on this last year in one of the UK guitar mags. It was an article describing a condition known as BAS (Boutique Amp Syndrome). This is known to affect mostly middle-aged male guitarists players who develop an unhealthy obsession with "tweed sag", a disdain for master volumes and then set about countering their mid-life crisis by spending several months' worth of mortgage payments on a guitar amp that looks like an old 1940s radio, weighs a ton and doesn't sound very good until it's turned up so loud that you start breaking windows with it! |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2009 : 22:26:47
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Originally posted by kipper15
Yikes Dr Bob! I'd better not be taking too much of your advice haha!
What I do find interesting is that some forums (the Harmony Central one being an example) are already talking about the ME-70 being "worse than an ME-50" and they haven't even heard it yet! That for me will be key....how does it SOUND?
Talking of GAS, I saw a very funny take on this last year in one of the UK guitar mags. It was an article describing a condition known as BAS (Boutique Amp Syndrome). This is known to affect mostly middle-aged male guitarists players who develop an unhealthy obsession with "tweed sag", a disdain for master volumes and then set about countering their mid-life crisis by spending several months' worth of mortgage payments on a guitar amp that looks like an old 1940s radio, weighs a ton and doesn't sound very good until it's turned up so loud that you start breaking windows with it!
Take everything said on harmony central witha pinch of salt..there is some good,honest reviews on there but there is a lot of crap and snobbery as well especially towards Boss for some reason... some of the people over there are all 'True Bypass'.... even though some of the legendary players they try to emulate have or still use Boss pedals in their set ups...!!
I've started B.A.S. for some of those amps.......i have a 74 Musicman combo,mid 70's Marshall Superbass mkII head and old Vox 2x12 cab and a 15 watt 61 Selmer 1X12..lately i've been looking at something smaller to run on gigs with(i use the musicman and marshall in stereo)...these amp i suppose would be considerd vintage by some people but they weren't when i bought them in the 80's and early 90's.... ..... |
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kipper15
Copper Member
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2009 : 23:12:02
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Right on Franzoni...it seems you are already suffering from a severe case of BAS there haha!!!
And yes, I agree about the HC reviews. The Legend Series got roasted over there...by idiots plugging them into crappy 15w SS practise amps! They're great pedals IMO.
Back to the ME-70...
there's a NAMM '09 show demo on youtube right here:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WB5kzzuipqY
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