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starr36
Platinum Member

Canada
1172 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2010 :  00:54:36  Show Profile  Visit starr36's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Gang. wondering if y'all can put your thoughts around a really good wah pedal.

I'm thinking of getting a crybaby 535q, but seems they have a pretty bad reliability rating based on reviews on the net.

I my Vox clyde re-issue ... just wondering what you think about a good wah, or recommend a good wah.

Witloofboer
Gold Member

Belgium
513 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2010 :  08:01:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I use a Vox V847 & I like it . It's not as sharp as a Cry Baby.
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kelmaur
Gold Member

USA
505 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2010 :  09:46:17  Show Profile  Send kelmaur a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
i have a Cry Baby....

cant really tell you anymore than that, because this is the only one i have ever had and havent tried any others
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Pepe
Silver Member

Germany
230 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2010 :  10:03:13  Show Profile  Visit Pepe's Homepage  Reply with Quote
And if the Cry Baby screams too sharp: adjust the potentiometer! Turn back the toothed potentiometer wheel one or two steps and the sound will become much better! But look out to adjust it just a little bit, otherwise it can't be operated correctly. The same procedure can be done to sharpen the sound. Just look for your best setting!
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nosi0
Gold Member

Netherlands
511 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2010 :  12:55:01  Show Profile  Visit nosi0's Homepage  Click to see nosi0's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The first wah i bought was a Crybaby 95Q wah mainly due to it's automatic swithing when you move the pedal and the fact that it springs back down by itself. This wah has great functionality but the tone is not optimal and after about 1-2 years with the pedal i started searching for a new wah focusing on tone rather than functionality. I tested many wah's, Vox, Crybaby, Morley, Fulltone. I found that all these pedals to be of high quality both in tone and in structure. Each pedal was tuned for a different tone so you have to test a few to get what you wan't. here's some personal favorites i found:

Metal: Morley (kiko loureiro/george lynch/mark tremotti models) Crybaby (zakk wylde)

Clean-Rock: Vox (big bad wah) Crybaby (535Q)

I ended up buying the Vox big bad wah as the 95Q was good enough for metal.
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2010 :  14:48:07  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Crybaby..never used anything else really..if i saw the Vox 847 going cheap i would probably give it a whirl as i've heard good things about it...never saw any of the 'boutique' wah pedals like Budda/RMC etc.. in any of the shops in this neck of the woods to try...
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2010 :  14:54:45  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi starr36 & Guys

In reality this question is very subjective & personal.
It's like asking what is the best dirt pedal in the world?

You should really go out & audition as many different Wah's as you can find.

I have a friend that has A Morley Bad Horsie, I tried for a few weeks.
To me it felt & sounded like I was about to slice off everyone's ears.
But in his hands & at a live gig, he makes it sounds like the best thing I have ever heard.
(Actually you guy might remember Xander261 - he uploaded his track BUSHIDOKAN - The Final Journey.mp3, it was his Morley).

But getting back on track...
I use an original 70's Jen Italian Crybaby - Ref Fasel inductor.
I recently put it into storage, as I found an identical era Jen,
but with a White Fasel inductor, that I now use.
This one was more beat up than my original.

I have various other newer-modern crybaby GBC-95's, & they just don't cut it.
The Jen has a heel down growl that hard to explain & beat.
it sort of imparts a DS-1 like soft distortion, if you pick hard.
The newer GBC-95's are what I would call HiFi compared to the Jen's,
that even sound sterile.

So as I mentioned earlier; Audition as many as you can before you make a decision.

Good Luck & have fun trying them all out.

Regards Dr. Bob
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2010 :  15:13:53  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's worth trying the crybaby 105Q. It is a bass wah, and I find it doesn't mess with bottom end but gives a nice wah on the mids and highs.
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2010 :  16:15:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Like Dr Bob says, wah is a very personal pedal.
To my ears the cheaper Vox and Cry Baby donīt sound as good as I wish. Vintage Vox could sound fantasic, but the price for a good one is also “fantastic”…..
I like Colorsound wahs very much, but they also can be expensive.
Boss PW-10 is quite good and versatile, the Univox modulation is really good and useful.
I have a Cry Baby with all components including the pcb from Roger Mayer, itīs a mod kit, and itīs one of the best wahs I ever tried.
But like overdrives, test before buy, preferably on your own equipment.

Edited by - Goran on 03/09/2010 16:16:36
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Joske Turbo
Silver Member

Belgium
412 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2010 :  17:50:40  Show Profile  Visit Joske Turbo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I just use a regular Cry Baby... It was one of my first pedals, never had problems with it, and I like the sound. I really don't see the point of spending about € 250 on a 'boutique wah', hey, it's just a wah. I never tried others though, so I can't compare to any other wah's.
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AdrianCrash
Copper Member

Venezuela
33 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2010 :  19:08:15  Show Profile  Visit AdrianCrash's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Someone here knows about the custom audio electronics wah? they have one with dual fassel inductors and integrated boost i would really like to try this pedal looks awesome and some demos on youtube are really good. here is a link to the pedal.

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/MXR-MC404-CAE-Crybaby-Dual-Inductor-Wah-Guitar-Effects-Pedal?sku=582116
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hateandwar
Gold Member

Australia
524 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2010 :  00:42:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a Cry Baby 95q that I use and it fills my wah needs. Although I've never tried anything else. I like mine because of the adjustment capabilities. If I came across something different and cheap I might give it a go.

Slightly off topic:
Bob, someone I know has a Jen made in italy wah that I think was called a double sound. It has a switch on it so you can choose from straight wah or fuzz wah. How much are these things worth? I might see if he wants to sell it. It looked to be in good nick.
(I figured that you out of all people would know!)
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verivorax
Platinum Member

Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2010 :  01:22:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Be careful with the current run of Vox V847. They are no longer made in the USA - as part of the "Korg owns Vox" deal, Dunlop handed over the wah line.. now they're less money, but also.. well, you get it.

The Satriani Big Bad Wah is a nice MIJ VOX-branded pedal which lets you select between inductors for a nice variety of tones.

The crybabies are good, try the GCB-95F (with Fasel inductor), or any of the Q models from past or present. The CAE model is very nice too.

Ernie Ball makes a nice wah based on their kevlar-cord volume pedal design.

The Voodoo Labs WAHZOO is probably one of my favourites.. great tone and range, plus nifty touch-wah and sequence memory settings. Money though.

If you want a Clyde re-issue, look for a Fulltone. The standard model isn't too pricey compared to some of the wahs above.

edit: hateandwar - Italian made JEN stuff can be worth a fortune. Get the specifics... and some pics??

Edited by - verivorax on 03/10/2010 01:24:09
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Disco Stu
Silver Member

USA
303 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2010 :  02:51:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a couple CryBaby's; one from the late 70's that I've had since new and another that a friend gave me in 1997-1998. Neither of them work barely at all. I guess there are some components that decay within them... I seem to think capacitors that poop out.

On the other hand the famous guitar player from "Phish" apparently uses a Crybaby housing with a Teese RMC-3 guts housed within, and gets good results. Apparently back in the day, Teese only shipped the guts with no housing; so the legend goes.
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Brutalitarian Supremacy
Silver Member

USA
270 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2010 :  04:09:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
!!!!!!!Colorsound Supa Wah Swell!!!!!!!...think 70's afro porn...sexy!
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Pedal Dan
Silver Member

USA
419 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2010 :  04:16:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have the Jimi Hendrix experience by Digitech that I don't use often enouogh. Also a Dunlop Crybaby. The wah pedal is one of those things you can get attached to like delay. Not a bad thing!
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