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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
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Posted - 06/26/2009 :  12:18:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have anybody been making experiments to get a close reproduction of the Uni Vibe sound from one or two Boss pedals, Boss PW-10 excluded?
Theoretically it should work with a chorus and a phaser in series, I have tested it, but no, not really good. But this can depend on settings of the respective pedal.
The closest I have come is by using DC-3, but not really satifying.

verivorax
Platinum Member

Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 06/26/2009 :  13:49:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
maybe inject a little light vibrato alongside the DC-3? The dimension series tends to lack that pitch-wavering goodness (which in many apps is the best sound anyway)..

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copper
Bronze Member

USA
73 Posts

Posted - 06/26/2009 :  19:37:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A univibe is a phaser with less stages. So maybe a subtle PH-x something.
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
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Posted - 06/26/2009 :  20:25:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by copper

A univibe is a phaser with less stages. So maybe a subtle PH-x something.


No I donīt think itīs that easy, and I have heard that Uni Vibe is a phaser before. But I have all Boss phasers and they sure donīt sound like an Uni Vibe.
The closest phaser (of the ones I have used) for an Uni Vibe-like sounds is EH Small Stone
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DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 06/26/2009 :  21:17:59  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I saw in the last few months where you can use a CE-5 to approximate the Vibrato which is cool but not relevant to this topic (as posted by
mikkejohansson.

"...the idea is to "turn off" the dry signal and only get the "chorus/vibrato"-signal. The CE-5 apparently feeds the dry thorugh one side and the effects signal thorugh the other side when used in stereo. So the "easy" mod is to plug an "empty" jack plug into one of the jacks and then the vibrato signal should sound out the other..."

Which makes me wonder if a CE-5 in conjunction with some other pedal (DM-2 perhaps?) to sound like a UniVibe.

Recent UniVibe thread:

http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6942

Interesting article at Geofex:

Technology of the Univibe

Edited by - DeFrag on 06/26/2009 21:32:46
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
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Posted - 06/27/2009 :  09:50:09  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by verivorax

maybe inject a little light vibrato alongside the DC-3? The dimension series tends to lack that pitch-wavering goodness (which in many apps is the best sound anyway)..





Yep i agree...maybe a TR-2 on a slow,less agressive wave setting..? or possibly a subtle phaser like the PH-1..?i tried something similar with my CE-2/TR-2 set full for a fast leslie effect for a while,it was the closest i came with my Boss pedals to getting anyway near the fast sound of my Dynacord CLS-22..i've never had a real Uni-vibe but from what i can hear of it in recordings etc...the slow speed setting on the Dynacord is similar (which i think the original univibe was based on,the slow speed setting of a Leslie speaker)...defo has that swirly Phaser/Chorus thing going on in slow mode....thats one of the main reasons i re-introduced my rack into my gig rig,to keep the Leslie fast /slow sounds within my reach on a gig .......

Edited by - FRANZONI on 06/27/2009 09:55:46
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Dirk
Platinum Member

Netherlands
1309 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2009 :  10:05:31  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My PH-1r on a fast rate/low depth/res off comes pretty close to that Nazareth "Love Hurts" guitar tone, with some crunchy sound from my amp.

Another very good pedal is the H&K Rotosphere, but they sell for abominal high prices on Ebay.

A good sample of the pedal is used on the clean sound in the intro of this song (from 0:28):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH4h5zAbaIo

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Frederick
Copper Member

Belgium
46 Posts

Posted - 06/28/2009 :  17:37:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, the Uni-V setting on the RT-20 sounds very nice to me (as long as the pedal's overdrive stays on zero). Through a good tube amp with a Strat I can definitely get the Jimi-sound.
A lot of people seem to think of it as a poor imitation of the Uni-vibe effect, but I feel none of the suggestions (pedal combinations and such) I have read on this board come any closer to the real Uni-V effect.
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jsoi_narciso
Silver Member

Philippines
200 Posts

Posted - 06/28/2009 :  19:06:06  Show Profile  Send jsoi_narciso a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Goran

Have anybody been making experiments to get a close reproduction of the Uni Vibe sound from one or two Boss pedals, Boss PW-10 excluded?
Theoretically it should work with a chorus and a phaser in series, I have tested it, but no, not really good. But this can depend on settings of the respective pedal.
The closest I have come is by using DC-3, but not really satifying.




i agree also, the
DC-3 comes close
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member

United Kingdom
400 Posts

Posted - 06/29/2009 :  00:42:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In terms of the circuit, a univibe is a four stage phaser: I'm not sure about the PH-1/PH-1r, but I believe the PH-2 is an 8 stage (10 stage with two stages not involved in phasing), and the PH-3 has modes which emulate 4, 8, 10 and 12 stages but being digital, cannot replicate this sound accurately.

The key difference between a standard phaser and univibe is outlined here:

http://www.lynx.net/~jc/pedalsSmallStone.html

You can mod a smallstone to make it sound vaguely like a univibe (I had mine modded) - Not sure i'd want to do it to a mint condition PH-1, though...

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archimedes
Silver Member

United Kingdom
191 Posts

Posted - 06/29/2009 :  12:01:13  Show Profile  Visit archimedes's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Leeroyfunk
The key difference between a standard phaser and univibe is outlined here:

http://www.lynx.net/~jc/pedalsSmallStone.html

You can mod a smallstone to make it sound vaguely like a univibe (I had mine modded) - Not sure i'd want to do it to a mint condition PH-1, though...



Thanks for that link, very useful information, tempted to try some reversible changes to my beaten up PH-1 sometime.

BTW there is a boxed Chicken Salad on eBay UK at the moment if anyone's interested.

David

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whurly
Copper Member

Australia
37 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2009 :  07:17:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You could try the PH-1 into a TR-2
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2009 :  08:01:15  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whurly

You could try the PH-1 into a TR-2


Hi whurly

It's been a looooong time since you posted here.
Welcome back.

If you still have my PM email me & let me know what projects you've been up to.

I'll be at the Berwick & District Folk Club (BAD FOLK) later tonight, if you're in the area.
At the old Cheese factory on Hometead road.

Drop in, first beer or red is on me.

Apologies to the other guys for hijacking the thread.

Regards Dr. Bob
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Ollie
Gold Member

United Kingdom
729 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2009 :  08:17:11  Show Profile  Click to see Ollie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
V-wah on Univ V setting?...
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whurly
Copper Member

Australia
37 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2009 :  14:29:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

quote:
Originally posted by whurly

You could try the PH-1 into a TR-2


Hi whurly

It's been a looooong time since you posted here.
Welcome back.

If you still have my PM email me & let me know what projects you've been up to.

I'll be at the Berwick & District Folk Club (BAD FOLK) later tonight, if you're in the area.
At the old Cheese factory on Hometead road.

Drop in, first beer or red is on me.

Apologies to the other guys for hijacking the thread.

Regards Dr. Bob



Hi Dr Bob, I sent a message your PM email. Cheers...

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 07/18/2009 14:51:22
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2009 :  15:07:29  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi whurly
quote:

Hi Dr Bob, I sent a message your PM email. Cheers...


Return reply sent.
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