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MullyFX
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Germany
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Posted - 12/18/2008 :  13:15:53  Show Profile  Visit MullyFX's Homepage  Reply with Quote
so TC reissued some of the old classics...

the Sustain & Parametric EQ is pretty cool



a shame they didn't include the preset distortion but apart from that it's wicked.

MullyFX
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Germany
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Posted - 12/18/2008 :  13:17:14  Show Profile  Visit MullyFX's Homepage  Reply with Quote
for those who don't know the original they looked like that:



never played an original but I recently tested the reissue and especially the EQ is superb...
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DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 12/18/2008 :  17:30:03  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Cool. Parametrics are the $hit!
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zerksies
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USA
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Posted - 12/19/2008 :  00:28:59  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
i wish boss kept making theres
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MullyFX
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Germany
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Posted - 12/19/2008 :  13:01:47  Show Profile  Visit MullyFX's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I just scored an original one for �46

it's defective but hopefully should be repareable

- the new ones cost �199 and don't have the built in distortion so I thought it's worth a shot
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MullyFX
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Germany
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Posted - 12/22/2008 :  16:33:05  Show Profile  Visit MullyFX's Homepage  Reply with Quote
it just arrived and it works...

well it did for about 2 minutes...

guess I'll have to bring it to the tonehunters to repair it. Hopefully it'll still be cheaper than buying it new
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MullyFX
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Germany
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Posted - 12/22/2008 :  17:31:55  Show Profile  Visit MullyFX's Homepage  Reply with Quote






Edited by - MullyFX on 12/22/2008 17:36:26
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visserman
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Posted - 12/30/2008 :  17:21:40  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think all TC pedals are great. I do not own any of them but they are at that high end of the scale, just below the boutique stuff.

And yep, parametric EQ's are great, just as grahic EQ's, Exhiters and Compressors. They are the kind of effects you can use in any kind of playing situation.
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DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 12/30/2008 :  22:55:47  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I've not worked with them much but a guy over on another board lays out the evils of using enhancers, expanders, & the like.
Basically, you'll become dependent on them like *crack* due to poor poor upstream tone & signal losses.
Yet another reason for keeping chains simple.

No wonder people who use the EH-1 actually find they can't live without it now.

I too think TC Electronic is just an RCH below boutique.. they have great stuff!

Edited by - DeFrag on 12/30/2008 22:56:12
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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 12/31/2008 :  02:08:44  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeFrag

I've not worked with them much but a guy over on another board lays out the evils of using enhancers, expanders, & the like.
Basically, you'll become dependent on them like *crack* due to poor poor upstream tone & signal losses.
Yet another reason for keeping chains simple.

No wonder people who use the EH-1 actually find they can't live without it now.

I too think TC Electronic is just an RCH below boutique.. they have great stuff!




Yep TC stuff is known for being top notch.... i wonder will the quality suffer after being bought out by Gibson......? might be the time to start grabbing the older stuff if it comes your way and holding onto it.....?

i too am not big on enhancers,exciters,noisegates etc...... i even stopped using graphic EQ's a long time back on the electric stuff....on gigs i find all i need is a few different sounds and i find if you set the amps basic tone up right in the first place and then add the effects to it...i don't worry too much anymore about having three diferent overdrive or distortion pedals and needing to EQ differently for every song...i just kick in the Twin tube overdrive and go for it......
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DeFrag
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Posted - 12/31/2008 :  02:43:41  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I remember writing a post a year ago about EQ controls throughout an extensive chain. Do we set them all at unity & use the amp's EQ? Should we set each pedal EQ up for the best sound & move on to the next stage?

There are so many ways to tweak & the combinations of everyones' different gear that I just try to KISS nowadays.

I suppose the best tone is to be had with your favorite guitar into your favorite amp with a 6' cord & no bloody effects swooshin' around! But oh the GAS & fun trying out all the different stuff.
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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 12/31/2008 :  04:02:23  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The only EQ apart from the ones on the amps is the bass and treble controls on the twin tube..the tone control on the CS-3 is set to 12 O'Clock or flat so it doesn't do anything when the pedal is on as best i can get it not to.....all the good reports on the CS-2 have me gassin' a bit..i love the 3 knob boss pedals ...even simpler to use..............plus i don't like amps with too many options on them for EQ... Bass,Middle,Treble is loads for me.....
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visserman
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1072 Posts

Posted - 01/02/2009 :  14:14:09  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeFrag

I've not worked with them much but a guy over on another board lays out the evils of using enhancers, expanders, & the like.
Basically, you'll become dependent on them like *crack* due to poor poor upstream tone & signal losses.
Yet another reason for keeping chains simple.

No wonder people who use the EH-1 actually find they can't live without it now.

I too think TC Electronic is just an RCH below boutique.. they have great stuff!



About your remark on the enhancers and expanders, I agree, it is addictive and once you like 'em you will find you keep using them in all kind of situations.

I tend to believe that the kind of tweaking which goes on with using EQ's and Exhiters and the likes is for people who like to experiment with tone and want to go a bit deeper. I also believe that NONE of the songs we hear on recordings from the 1950s right up to now was recorded through just an amp and guitar, no, I think there is often a little more going on then what seems to be the obvious.

Maybe using EQ's is just an evolutionairy thing for studios and people interested in how certain tones are being achieved.

My own use of EQ's and Exhiters goes to using small amps, and wanting to achieve more out of them then what they can give you. I can reference my tones to larger stageamps I have around here, and I do find that I can come very close.

Of course the total soundpicture is the result of speaker, amp, guitar and effects. Never the less, I think it is possible to get your own tones out of someone else's amp, given the fact that you understand what makes your tone.

A lot of my experiments came out of practical issues, like not being able to transport my own larger amps that easily, hence my needs for preamps and EQ's, mixers ect. I play a lot on amps that just happen to be around, and I am not alway happy with the tones I can get, but most of the time all my small pedals help me along the way to get a much bigger tone.

A little sidepoint: EQ's and Enhancers help to exaggerate your tone. There are certain sounds I really like, but some amps are not great at expression that tone very well. One example which comes to mind is the dry, clean sound of a Marshall. I say Marshall, because any model does carry that sound, regardless of speaker or year of manifacture of the amp. Now with the use of EQ's and Enhancers it is much easier to get that sound and to boost it to a relatively strong level. Carry that approach even further: "What about getting that sound out of a none-Marshall amp"? YEs this is possible as well, but only with the help of some EQ and preamps.

I believe that the next step is Ampmodeling, although I am not a fan, though my own methods of working with sound may reveal some early aspects of how ampmodeling came into being.

Gosh, sorry for all the blah blah, after all we are just about playing a good song with a great tone. Noone is really interested in how you get that sound, apart from some of us freaks who may reseach, and experiment with these issues forever.

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