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kawayan_strat
Copper Member

Philippines
15 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2007 :  10:13:05  Show Profile  Visit kawayan_strat's Homepage  Send kawayan_strat a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Hi tech guys.Can you please help me with this?I recently got a used CE3
and i'm not happy with the volume drop when engaged.I think i've red about it in another forum,that they just changed the caps or something. But i forgot the site where i've read it.Please help me with this.I would really like to keep my CE3.

Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2007 :  11:25:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I haven�t noticed any volume drop on my CE-3, my CE-2 have a tad volume boost I think and I have noticed this on other CE-2�s too.
Could be something wrong with your CE-3?!
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2007 :  13:09:46  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi kawayan_strat, Goran & Guys

It might possibly be a loading effect, from another pedal-s connected before of after you CE-3.

Have you tried it, with only the CE-3 connected?
Tell us what happens with only the CE-3

Maybe even crappy or resistive leads.

Like Goran, I haven't noticed any drop in volume with My CE-3,
but I will admit, I mainly use my Tri-Chorus CE-2 setup.

Regards Dr. Bob
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bosshog
Silver Member

Canada
493 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2007 :  05:12:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Come to think of it I think I have experienced a volume drop with my CE-3.

My bandmates complained that they couldn't hear me...

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kawayan_strat
Copper Member

Philippines
15 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2007 :  14:46:20  Show Profile  Visit kawayan_strat's Homepage  Send kawayan_strat a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

Hi kawayan_strat, Goran & Guys

It might possibly be a loading effect, from another pedal-s connected before of after you CE-3.

Have you tried it, with only the CE-3 connected?
Tell us what happens with only the CE-3

Maybe even crappy or resistive leads.

Like Goran, I haven't noticed any drop in volume with My CE-3,
but I will admit, I mainly use my Tri-Chorus CE-2 setup.

Regards Dr. Bob


What do you mean by crappy or resistive leads?

I've tried the CE3 alone and it was ok.but when i engage an OD pedal,the volume drops,even with the right level settings on the OD.

Edited by - kawayan_strat on 08/22/2007 14:50:47
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2007 :  15:09:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The volume drops after you engage the OD? weird...
What connectors are you using? Not suggesting you're a noob,
what power adapter are you using, the CE-3 takes the old style ACA adapters. If your running it off a battery or daisy chain, then try the cables. I found a bad patch cable that caused problems I didn't know i had. Guess the last step would be is there any visible damage to the pcb or components, you may have a short inside your ce-3

good luck
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2007 :  16:09:23  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChristoMephisto

The volume drops after you engage the OD? weird...
What connectors are you using? Not suggesting you're a noob,
what power adapter are you using, the CE-3 takes the old style ACA adapters. If your running it off a battery or daisy chain, then try the cables. I found a bad patch cable that caused problems I didn't know i had. Guess the last step would be is there any visible damage to the pcb or components, you may have a short inside your ce-3

good luck



Hi ChristoMephisto & kawayan_strat

Thanks Chisto, Not to mention, that you thought of the ACA issue as well, I wasn't even thinking that far ahead.
That's why the community works so well, we all help each other out.

I hope it helps kawayan_strat.

Regards Dr. Bob
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 08/25/2007 :  13:01:18  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Are you using your ce3 in mono or stereo.....i use my ch1 in stereo gigging and in mono rehearsing so if i forget to turn the effect level up full in stereo mode when i turn on the effect it sounds like a volume drop.....normally in stereo i leave the effect level up full and halfway in mono.....i think you have to switch the stereo/mono mode over manually with the ce3..if there was a problem with the mode switch could this be a cause.....???
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 08/25/2007 :  14:18:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good point Franz, I just started using stereo via my dd-3
and if I forget to turn on the second amp(d'oh) i get a volume drop.

I thought when you max out the Effects level the wet half of the sound is as loud as the dry sound...I have a DC-3 chorus and don't notice a volume increase when I up the Effect lvl, the chorus sound becomes more defined.
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2007 :  11:34:26  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
hi christo...... my take on the mono/stereo thing (and i could be wrong...!!)is that when the ch1 is in stereo there is no 'dry' signal going to one amp instead the chorus sound modulates between the two outputs going to the amps.. thats what it sounds like to me,if i try to run the signal from the second stereo output on it's own the sound has a faint 'seasick' wobble..i have one of the older ch1's so i'm not sure if the other boss chorus pedals are the same but i find that that i get the impression of a volume drop if the effect level is turned down when using two amps and turning the effect on and off..i just leave the effect level pot maxxed out so it's no big deal to me.....

Edited by - FRANZONI on 08/26/2007 11:35:26
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2007 :  14:50:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The DC-3 instructions are less detailed than the CH-1.
It says the CH-1's B output is dry, and A is the Effect sound.
And because of the 'space compounding stereo system' it can pan between the two.
An old DD3 is at the end of my chain, if the CE2 was stereo, i would have it there. Direct out is my main, and the effects is my second amp.
Same as yours, but my effects comes out the opposite side.

I remember looking at the mz2 schems, and when output B was plugged in, it would go through a different circut path. Splitting the signal, and maybe a small boost. Maybe when the second amp is plugged in, but not on, the main amp isn't receiving the full signal. Wonder if all stereo pedals have this, and those with E lvl knobs adjustable.
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