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telemike
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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  15:02:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Which chorus to get?

lordofmushrooms
Bronze Member

France
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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  15:25:33  Show Profile  Visit lordofmushrooms's Homepage  Click to see lordofmushrooms's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
They are really different, it's just a question of taste. You should really test them both and make your own opinion.
If you want mine, buy a DC-3
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phostenix
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USA
754 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2005 :  15:40:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I you are buying new, the only difference is the low frequency filter or tone control. The circuits are identical outside of that.

There are 2 versions of both these pedals, an older analog and a newer digital. You can tell the difference by serial number. The CH-1 changes at S/N AP11700, the CE-5 at S/N KP16600. If you want to mod, the older one is much easier. I have several analog versions of both of these pedals and 1 digital of each. I have to admit that the biggest difference in sound is that the digital ones have less noise, especially if you turn up the highs.

The analog versions have more circuit differences between them, but the still sound very much the same.

I wish I had more time this morning, but I think the CH-1 and CE-5 can both produce what the CE-2 does. The advantage is that you can roll off the high end if you don't like how "shimmery" Boss choruses can be. Especially if you want to use chorus after distortion, it's nice to be able to take out some of the sizzle.

If you don't want the ability to cut the lows, CH-1's are more plentiful and go cheaper on ebay. Cutting the lows basically reduces the chorus effect on the lows. It's a personal preference thing depending on what you're doing and whether you're using distortion in front. I put a bunch of low ball bids on some CH-1's when I was trying to get an analog & digital version of each pedal and ended up with 6 of them. Oops! That'll teach me not to snipe! BTW, they all sound the same....

Neither chorus gets much faster than the old ones, but they do go a little faster. You still won't get real good leslie sim sounds out of them, though.

Having the effect level adjustment available is nice.

Both have the stereo outs that let you get just the chorus effect on the 2nd output which is like a vibrato effect to a 2nd amp.

If you want real deep warbley or sea-sick chorus sounds, neither pedal really does this. I really like the Rocktron Deep Blue as a non-Boss alternative, but it has no tone control and is as bright as the Boss. Is goes as fast as any chorus I've heard (the other 2 are the Ibanez RC-99 and the Rocktron Tsunami), but if you're looking for Nirvana sounding choruses, you'll need an EQ to tame that pedal. The Ibanez RC-99 is great all around performer, but no tone control and is NOT as bright as the Boss. Also pricey on ebay - about $100 US.

The CE-2 is still the best all around simple, great sounding chorus. No tone control, no mix control, no stereo outs, but it is the best sounding clean chorus of the lot, IMHO. Here I have to admit that I like my old MIJ SS the best of the 6 I have. (6? That's another story for another day ) I haven't had the time to really examine them all and figure out the differences, but I will!

Grace and peace,

Steve

Edited by - phostenix on 12/21/2005 15:57:22
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phostenix
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USA
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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  16:28:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK, so the choruses on the Boss ME-50 go faster, but I'm not sure they are useable sounds. Guess it depends on what you are trying to do....

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telemike
Copper Member

47 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2005 :  17:01:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The best chorus I had was on the Fender Princetone chorus amp. I had an H2O but did not like it much.

Probably try and grab a CH-1 off ebay for $60 or less.
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lamkelf
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Canada
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Posted - 12/21/2005 :  17:47:21  Show Profile  Click to see lamkelf's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hi telemike,

What do you think of the H2O? (Off topic but as a continuation).
Don't know if a Nathan East NE-1 will be good for my Warwick passive.
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telemike
Copper Member

47 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2005 :  15:32:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The H20 had a great delay but the chorus was not that great in the long run.......
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phostenix
Gold Member

USA
754 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2005 :  15:41:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Off the top of my head, I don't remember why, but I wasn't too impressed with the H2O either. I have the older one. I have the BBD chips that they are putting in the new ones, but I haven't done the switch yet. It is supposed to make a difference, we'll see. I'll post back when I've had a chance to play with it again.

Grace and peace,

Steve
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alex_law
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168 Posts

Posted - 12/23/2005 :  15:55:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I played with the H2O, Analogman and TC Electronics choruses for a while, and far preferred the TC. I believe I'll be receiving a prototype analog chorus from a reasonably well known company in the next month or so, and that should prove interesting...

Boss needs to release a Univibe - that's where it's at! I can't imagine stuffing photocells in a compact pedal, though.
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jallen
Copper Member

USA
15 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2005 :  17:18:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I absolutely love my new CE-5 that I got early this year. I also compared to the CH-1 and some others and the CE-5 was the one I decided on. Hope this helps!
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boss freak
Gold Member

USA
663 Posts

Posted - 12/30/2005 :  22:15:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I only recently submitted to buying a CH1, but I have yet to find the time to sit down and use it. I've never even touched a CE5, but for the sake of completing my collection, I guess I'll get on soon if the price is right. What sets these two choruses apart from other Boss choruses?
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phostenix
Gold Member

USA
754 Posts

Posted - 12/30/2005 :  22:45:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hate to tell you this, Bossfreak, but if you're loooking to fill out your collection, you need 2 of each of the CH-1 & CE-5. There's an analog version and a digital version of those.

I've gotten sidetracked with other projects lately, but I'll eventually do a full analysis of the different chorus pedals (non-Boss included) and post back.

Grace and peace,

Steve
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boss freak
Gold Member

USA
663 Posts

Posted - 12/31/2005 :  18:59:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I seem to recall a thread about the digital/analog versions quite a while ago. I don't know how crazy I want to go with having every version of every pedal though. As it is now I think I've got a fairly extensive collection and it's sometimes hard to remember which versions I do or don't have, not to mention running out of space to put them.
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nebo_81
Copper Member

Singapore
19 Posts

Posted - 01/03/2006 :  10:07:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i agree with phostenix.

But i dun really like the CH1.
And you should try your best to get hold of a blue backplate CE-5,
very rare but definately analog.

When i set my rate to zero, i can even get something close to a flanger sound on my CE-5.

*CHEERS*
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bossFan
Bronze Member

Portugal
97 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2006 :  00:05:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Which Boss chorus?
Try to get one HR-2.
You will also have an harmonizer on the side
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