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midibuddy
Silver Member

Ecuador
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Posted - 08/09/2006 :  19:55:42  Show Profile  Click to see midibuddy's MSN Messenger address  Send midibuddy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Which one would you choose for autowah/filtering use?
I need one because we're playing covers of Mysterious Ways (U2) and "I Shot the Sherriff", plus some other stuff that would be enriched by the use of a wah.
Here I found the AW-2 and the FT-2, which one would you reccommend?
I'd get a Dunlop Cry Baby but they don't have it here, and when they have one, they usually sell them very expensive (like $ 120 or so)
Which would you choose? AW-2 or FT-2?

Erik dP
Silver Member

Sweden
150 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2006 :  20:57:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For Mysterious Ways, The Edge used a KORG A2 or A3 with its autowha setting. It is the KORG default autowah setting (it got this delay before the "down" starts after trigging as you hear on Myst. Ways). The Edge also used other sounds (distorted flanger) from this unit on The Fly. I used to have this unit, but I sold it as I prefered pedals. All sounds were really good. The reverb and delays were especially good with high cut. I guess that you can buy them cheap second hand if you want the U2 sound. Make sure you get the specialised pedal board as it besides normal MIDI operation also can with its special cable also function as 6 (or 8?) individual pedals with on/off. However the effect chains to place on these are fixed but numerous.

AW-2 is noisy with distortion. However you can get fun diggeridoo sounds together with an DD-2/3.

I think FT-2 is the best auto wha from BOSS as I tried AW-2, AW-3 (havn't tried T-wha or multi units). It is quiet and has a Q pot to tailor your sound. It also has expression pedal input. I havn't tried Mysterious Ways on FT-2, but the auto wha will not copy that sound. Maybe with exp. pedal.

Edited by - Erik dP on 08/09/2006 21:14:59
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midibuddy
Silver Member

Ecuador
285 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2006 :  21:11:21  Show Profile  Click to see midibuddy's MSN Messenger address  Send midibuddy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
How much should I pay for an used FT-2?
Or a new old stock one?
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Erik dP
Silver Member

Sweden
150 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2006 :  21:18:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I paid $100 in Sweden in a second hand store (nearly mint). I have seen it in another store for $115. But on ebay they are cheaper for sure.

More or less the same price as a new AW-3 in the US. I sold my AW-2 and AW-3. FT-2 does the job for me.

Edited by - Erik dP on 08/09/2006 21:20:00
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midibuddy
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Ecuador
285 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2006 :  21:51:23  Show Profile  Click to see midibuddy's MSN Messenger address  Send midibuddy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the info!
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Sunburst
Silver Member

427 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2006 :  22:20:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I recently purchased an FT-2 for my collection, but I was not very impressed with the sound and thought it sounded a little cold and lifeless. Not very inspiring. I compared it to my TW-1, and the TW-1 sounds much better to my ears.

I have not tried out the AW-2 but I suggest that you try and find a TW-1. Itīs an awesome autowah that is warm sounding and inspiring. On top of that, it has that really cool switch!

From a collectors point of view, the FT-2 however is a rarer and more collectible pedal.

Edited by - Sunburst on 08/09/2006 22:20:50
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midibuddy
Silver Member

Ecuador
285 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2006 :  00:32:08  Show Profile  Click to see midibuddy's MSN Messenger address  Send midibuddy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Sunburst, How much would you pay for a NOS FT-2 (or maybe used but i mint condition), an AW-2 or TW-1 in same condition?

I think I will have to choose between the AW-2 and the FT-2 because those are the ones I have seen here at a 2 stores...

Thanks for your reply!
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Big Boss Man
Gold Member

USA
564 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2006 :  03:33:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The AW-2 is an autowah and the FT-2 is an envelope filter. They are two slightly different effects. Autowah automatically simulates the sound of a wah wah pedal being rocked up and down. An envelope filter creates a wah wah sound based on how hard you pick. I think Mysterious Ways is autowah. Envelope filter sounds can be heard on a lot of Jerry Garcia solos with the Grateful Dead.

Personally I like the FT-2. I own two of them myself. It is fairly rare and worth well over 100 USD mint with the box. TW-1 (another envelope filter) is in the same price range as the FT-2. AW-2 is worth much less.
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Sunburst
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427 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2006 :  08:05:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The FT-2 is the rarer pedal but perhaps not as popular as the TW-1, and therefore not that much more expensive. Perhaps the FT-2 is a rising star?

TW-1īs can go for less than 100 USD on Ebay. Earlier silver screw specimens of the TW-1 and Touch Wah, which was its earliest name usually go for a bit more than TW-1īs with black screws, depending on the market interest at the time.

The AW-2 is cheaper than both TW-1 and FT-2, since it is a common pedal.
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Erik dP
Silver Member

Sweden
150 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2006 :  10:36:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think Big Boos Man got his description wrong.

Both AW-2 and FT-2 are controlled "by how hard you pick". In addition to this AW-2 also can generate a periodic "up and down" wha sound for the chicka-chicka funk sound. These two functions of the AW-2 can be used at the same time or individually. When used at the same time the periodic "up and down" will be turned of/not heard in favor of moments with HARD picking.

As I wrote earlier: If you use distortion - the AW-2 will create a lot of hum (also with battery).
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Dingus
Silver Member

USA
472 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2006 :  18:43:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just wanted to be a jerk and add that I picked up an FT-2 when I had never heard of it, and had no idea what it was, for $15 at a pawn shop. Good thing I like to collect.

Edited by - Dingus on 08/10/2006 18:43:47
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StratoSphere
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Canada
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Posted - 08/13/2006 :  08:13:37  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
between the two, i would pick the FT-2. i actually thought that i was doomed in the world of auto wah/filters until i tried my TW-1 that came in a few days ago.. i still cant believe how many different sounds can be pulled out of those 2 knobs and 1 switch. incredible sound, and it sounds amazing with delay. i havent been this happy with a new pedal in a long time. anyway getting back on topic, the FT-2 seems like the better choice soundwise and for collection purposes. good luck
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midibuddy
Silver Member

Ecuador
285 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2006 :  06:07:36  Show Profile  Click to see midibuddy's MSN Messenger address  Send midibuddy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote

Grrrr!... when to the store on saturday, (after the gig I had on friday, where I collected the money to buy it), and the NOS FT-2 was gone. I'm not sure, but I think they were asking $70 for it. I found a BF-3 (new) for $ 90, and an AW-2 for $ 94. But I think I'd go for an AW-3 instead. The "voice wah" effect sounds interesting... or I might buy an used Dunlop Cry Baby instead...

I want to do this right now: ==>
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