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DeFrag
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  06:29:40  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
http://www.novaxguitars.com



Rickenbacker had some slanted fret guitars back in the 70s but pics are hard to come by.

Edited by - DeFrag on 02/11/2009 06:30:26

kelmaur
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  06:42:40  Show Profile  Send kelmaur a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
sure looks like a wide neck
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Laurie
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  06:45:01  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dingwall make great basses with a similar fanning. The intonation is awesome!

http://www.dingwallguitars.com/html/main.html

Edited by - Laurie on 02/11/2009 06:45:18
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DeFrag
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  08:39:37  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kelmaur

sure looks like a wide neck



7-string
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zerksies
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  12:58:25  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
it compensates for the standard bad not placement on the guitar
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bossarea
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  13:03:35  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's like looking at those Escher paintings where the perspectives are all messed up.
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Witloofboer
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Belgium
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  14:09:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Charlie Hunter uses these.
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MullyFX
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  14:11:41  Show Profile  Visit MullyFX's Homepage  Reply with Quote
John Mayer's been using one on his "old" album (it's even on the cover)

I'm more interested in the True Temprament guitars ...played one on last years Musik Messe - really cool stuff
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redundant
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Turkey
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  14:21:16  Show Profile  Visit redundant's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have the very strong feeling that these are way out of my price league. Shame, as I would love to get the mandolin (sorry, Fandolin) for my wife.
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verivorax
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  17:48:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Dingwalls are $6-8k CAD (more now, probably).

A local guy who owned a custom (aren't they all?) Dingwall had it stolen, and it prompted a huge newspaper article about stolen hi-end gear. Hard to fence one-of-a-kind items like that, I'd guess, but people still take 'em.

Those "True Temperament" frets are interesting, but I'm told even players like Vai were finding them to be difficult to work around (bending notes makes them go wild). So much amazing in-tune music has been made with primitive 50s electric instruments that I don't think these innovations are the be-all-end-all of tone. (In the same way that PLEKking a guitar doesn't make it instantly amazing, as some people feel)..
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MullyFX
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Germany
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  18:43:06  Show Profile  Visit MullyFX's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by verivorax

The Dingwalls are $6-8k CAD (more now, probably).

A local guy who owned a custom (aren't they all?) Dingwall had it stolen, and it prompted a huge newspaper article about stolen hi-end gear. Hard to fence one-of-a-kind items like that, I'd guess, but people still take 'em.

Those "True Temperament" frets are interesting, but I'm told even players like Vai were finding them to be difficult to work around (bending notes makes them go wild). So much amazing in-tune music has been made with primitive 50s electric instruments that I don't think these innovations are the be-all-end-all of tone. (In the same way that PLEKking a guitar doesn't make it instantly amazing, as some people feel)..



what's this PLEKing you speak of???

I guess that's the stuff Framus uses but I have no clue what it does.
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MullyFX
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  18:46:18  Show Profile  Visit MullyFX's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MullyFX

quote:
Originally posted by verivorax

The Dingwalls are $6-8k CAD (more now, probably).

A local guy who owned a custom (aren't they all?) Dingwall had it stolen, and it prompted a huge newspaper article about stolen hi-end gear. Hard to fence one-of-a-kind items like that, I'd guess, but people still take 'em.

Those "True Temperament" frets are interesting, but I'm told even players like Vai were finding them to be difficult to work around (bending notes makes them go wild). So much amazing in-tune music has been made with primitive 50s electric instruments that I don't think these innovations are the be-all-end-all of tone. (In the same way that PLEKking a guitar doesn't make it instantly amazing, as some people feel)..



what's this PLEKing you speak of???

I guess that's the stuff Framus uses but I have no clue what it does.




aaahhh:

http://www.framus.de/modules/infos/info.php?katID=14719&cl=EN
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Laurie
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  20:22:33  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MullyFX
aaahhh:

http://www.framus.de/modules/infos/info.php?katID=14719&cl=EN


WOW... that is high-tech!

It continually amazes me that a good player has the ability to compensate for (and exploit) all the little inconsistencies and inaccuracies in a guitar.
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verivorax
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Canada
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  23:32:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I saw the PLEK in action @ the Nashville Gibson Custom Shop in 2005.. you can pick a specific fret profile (as per the difference in 58/59 LP frets).. It should also be able to compensate for variances and twists in the neck/fingerboard (at the time of plekking, of course). The machines are something like $250k and shops willing to do it for consumers might charge as much as $500 for Plekking a single guitar. It's amazing tech, indeed,

but I'm in more reverence of the players, as Laurie said, who overcome those issues and make amazing music.
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kelmaur
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USA
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Posted - 02/12/2009 :  14:37:03  Show Profile  Send kelmaur a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
IMO

i think they are ugly..no disrecpect for ones that do like them

seems to me that you would have to spread your fingers more than normal in some instances
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kelmaur
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USA
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Posted - 02/12/2009 :  14:39:58  Show Profile  Send kelmaur a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bossarea

It's like looking at those Escher paintings where the perspectives are all messed up.



i know exactly what you mean..i use dto have a shirt with some of his pencil drawings on it

i love his stuff..it makes you think
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