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macOy
Copper Member

Philippines
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Posted - 09/29/2008 :  08:57:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
does anyone know where is the location of the input capacitor of metalzone and ds-1? and what would be its value? if im going to replace it i think its broken

Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 09/29/2008 :  14:32:06  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by macOy

does anyone know where is the location of the input capacitor of metalzone and ds-1? and what would be its value? if im going to replace it i think its broken



MT-2 it is C41 and it is 100uF 16VDC.
DS-1 it is C21 and it is 100uF 16VDC.

The only input capacitor I've ever seen that needed replacement is one that had been overheated when the reverse protection diode failed in a PW-2. If you could explain the symptoms you are seeing, maybe we could help diagnose the problem?
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macOy
Copper Member

Philippines
22 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2008 :  15:27:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
this morning when i plug it it sounded so slow the volume will increase and its not normal sound, as i stum my guitar harder, then after a few minutes it will be in its normal sound then when i turn it off again it will come back again, i bought a 1000ma adapter coz i think it was the problem but i was wrong, a friend of mine told me that maybe its in the input capacitor but i dunno where is the input caps hehehe

one more thing, my adapter can switch to 6 volts, so i switch it there then it sounded ok there but the light was not bright and the gain decrease
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macOy
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Philippines
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Posted - 09/29/2008 :  15:29:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
by the way, thanks Laurie
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 09/29/2008 :  16:27:46  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ah... the caps I gave you are the power supply input caps, not the signal input caps.

It is unlikely that two pedals have failed with the same fault at the same time (but not impossible!)

I'd suggest looking for other causes... Are they both powered by the same power supply? Have you tried them with a known good battery?
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Dirk
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Netherlands
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Posted - 09/29/2008 :  17:09:13  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Also, have you tried it with another guitar cord?
Or even another guitar?
Have you plugged straight into your guitar amp, bypassing all pedals completely to make sure it's not your amp or guitar?

Assuming you use a small patch cord between both pedals, have you tried a different one? Especially cheap patch cords are known for weird volume drops/swells, try wiggling around with the jacks.

Good luck.
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
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Posted - 09/29/2008 :  17:19:21  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi macOy

Why don't you also download the Schematics for the MT-2 & the DS-1
that you are working on?
It would be better than trying to work blindfolded.


Most of the common Boss Schematics can be found here:

http://www.freeinfosociety.com/electronics/schempage.php?cat=1

And don't for get to look in the schematics thread:
http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4276

Regards Dr. Bob
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macOy
Copper Member

Philippines
22 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2008 :  05:14:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi Laurie, doc Bob,and Dirk

so do you know where is the input signal caps located? its not in my guitar chord not not in my guitar or amp its my problem since last year, especially during cold weather, what i do is to put it at he back of the fridge coz its warmer there, then when i use it it will be ok
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Laurie
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Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2008 :  05:20:02  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi macOy!

The main thing I have seen that responds to hot and cold like that is a "dry joint"... where the solder isn't properly making contact and the heat expands the metal and makes the contact.

If it is a dry joint, they can be really hard to find. I think at this point some high resolution/really clear pics of the solder side of the circuit board would be a good thing for us to see.
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macOy
Copper Member

Philippines
22 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2008 :  05:22:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ive tried using brand new battery its still the same in both pedals im using one 1000ma adapter to my 3 pedals mt2 ds1, and ps2 well the problem only happens when its cold here, but during summer i dont have problem with those, its weird
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macOy
Copper Member

Philippines
22 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2008 :  05:25:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ohh my god i dont have cam what if ill try re soldering all of those? its too many but i can do it thanks for the info
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