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digsy
Bronze Member
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 Posted - 11/15/2008 : 07:44:37
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I am looking for 2 different kind of knobs actually:
1) OD-2 knobs -> yellow ones
2) the smaller knobs for Tone on the SD-1 or Level on the DS-1
Am also trying my luck for a MIJ backplate for a normal Boss...
If anyone out there has the above mentioned for sale.. please email at arthurwsd@gmail.com
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gurran1928
Gold Member
Sweden
650 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2008 : 00:47:05
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| There are like 8 different backplates on MIJ |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2008 : 02:21:50
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| he is right, looking for any special one? |
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digsy
Bronze Member
56 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2008 : 07:07:22
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thnxx for the replies everyone and apologies for not making myself clearer...
I'm looking the black or green colour ones... it's actually a replacement for a DM-2 i picked up... 
do let me know if anyone has a spare one.. Cheers..
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digsy
Bronze Member
56 Posts |
Posted - 01/28/2009 : 09:28:12
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| bump!! please contact me at arthurwsd@gmail.com if you got a MIJ backplate to let... cheers!! |
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pedelar
Copper Member
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Posted - 01/30/2009 : 23:32:01
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| if you sell pedal are you going to inform buyer that it has replacement bottom on it? |
Edited by - pedelar on 01/30/2009 23:32:32 |
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digsy
Bronze Member
56 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 15:24:54
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| hmm.. the backplate is actually for DM-2 that i picked up... so i don't think i'll be selling it anytime soon... i'm quite particular about such cosmetic stuffs... alittle OCD i reckon.. |
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verivorax
Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 02/07/2009 : 23:16:08
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| If a replacement part is period and genuine, I don't know if he would have to declare it at the time of sale.. If the backplate were for an MIT pedal, then it's another story. |
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Disco Stu
Silver Member
USA
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Posted - 02/08/2009 : 01:17:17
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This whole discussion makes me think of the book written about some fellow named Henri, who made fake Matisse (and other) paintings and sold them to art collectors... He was quite skilled as I recall, and many collectors probably still have his "tribute art" on their walls.
The book was titled "Fraud" I believe, and I tend to think the author was Clifford Irving. I remember that I got a few chuckles out of it...
good read.
So where does one draw the line at Boss pedal authenticity? If the backplate matches the time frame for the serial number, is that considered chicanery among collectors? I'd like to hear people's opinions on this topic! |
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starr36
Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 02/18/2009 : 10:54:02
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simple. digsy would need to keep the old back plate and sell it along with the "replacement" in the event he "knows full well" the item has materially more collectible value with the replacement plate rather than the old one. In clear conscience, one would not be able to sell it as "all original" or "all original to the best of my knowledge" which would likely come up in questions from a collector. It really boils down to basic honesty. Bear in mind though, digsy did say he had no plans to sell it and is somewhat obsessive-compulsive with these details ... so am I ... but I bet that digsy will continue searching and my someday come across a cleaner unit and thus push the existing one down his pecking order and may choose to not hold it in such high regard as he does now, and relegate it to regular gigging now that he would have a good backup for it. I would bear in mind that eBay and used stuff is 'used' and there is really no way to authenticate an 'untouched pedal' save for that unmistakeable "click" that you hear when the factory torquing of the bottom screw has been opened for the VERY FIRST TIME (I think guys like Laurie know that sound!) If you don't hear that click, the pedal has been opened and who knows what has been done to it.
One can really split hairs here, for instance I have 3 dd-s and only ONE complete packaging ... but i never wrote down WHICH PEDAL came with the box. What if you break a knob and change it? All fine and dandy if these things are replaced in normal "repair" ... but to change things to inflate the value - you know in your gut if it has to be disclosed at sale. Simply ask yourself, what it is YOU are expecting from the seller at the point you are parting with $300 hard earned greenbacks for a DM-2 that is "all original". Yeah, you bet your boots you want it alloringal |
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 02/18/2009 : 15:00:46
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Originally posted by starr36
All fine and dandy if these things are replaced in normal "repair"
G'day! I've wondered about this question. Is a pedal still "original" if it has been professionally repaired in the normal course of events (say, the battery snap and a pot replaced)?
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/19/2009 : 10:38:21
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Personally I would say that the pedal is still original if the replacement parts are identical to the original part. In the world of classic cars, they get into this dilemma a lot more often. They got moving parts that must be replaced quite often and old cars will always have lots of replacement parts. They're still regarded as completely original as long as the parts are rufurbished or new old stock. I would argue the same thing applies to Boss pedals.
Getting back on topic...
What's the serial number of your DM-2, digsy? 99% of DM-2s would have had a black label but the last ones made had green Japan labels. |
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digsy
Bronze Member
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Posted - 02/19/2009 : 15:50:30
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woahh woahh.. haven't logged in here for a long time and it seems i caused quite stir here!!
Anyways, I received the DM-2 a couple of weeks back and to my surprise, the condition wasn't as bad as the seller described!! The seller was telling me that the condition was beat up and the condition only a 5/10 and he also told me that the back plate was in bad shape... however from the pictures below, you will see that there's nothing wrong with it except the "Made In Japan" portion is missing.. i can live with that 
upon checking, it's a DM-2B dated April 1983..
maybe this is not the right place to discuss about this.. will take more pics of some great bargains i got recently..
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starr36
Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 02/19/2009 : 23:15:58
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Originally posted by bossarea
Personally I would say that the pedal is still original if the replacement parts are identical to the original part. In the world of classic cars, they get into this dilemma a lot more often. They got moving parts that must be replaced quite often and old cars will always have lots of replacement parts. They're still regarded as completely original as long as the parts are rufurbished or new old stock. I would argue the same thing applies to Boss pedals.
Getting back on topic...
What's the serial number of your DM-2, digsy? 99% of DM-2s would have had a black label but the last ones made had green Japan labels.
you are right, car rebuilders go a little psycho on serial number matching etc. My issue is, if I am buying a collector pedal, I would try to determine that it hasn't been messed with and is all original, as best the owner can tell - thats all I ask.
Its frustrating to buy something that isn't what they said it was ... ie one of my PH-1r "worked perfect" but alas, it "clicked" when engaged and disengaged (i got it cheap because it was missing the two larger knobs about $50, i bet the seller honestly didn't know it was defective) |
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2009 : 14:31:52
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Originally posted by starr36
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Originally posted by bossarea
Personally I would say that the pedal is still original if the replacement parts are identical to the original part. In the world of classic cars, they get into this dilemma a lot more often. They got moving parts that must be replaced quite often and old cars will always have lots of replacement parts. They're still regarded as completely original as long as the parts are rufurbished or new old stock. I would argue the same thing applies to Boss pedals.
Getting back on topic...
What's the serial number of your DM-2, digsy? 99% of DM-2s would have had a black label but the last ones made had green Japan labels.
you are right, car rebuilders go a little psycho on serial number matching etc. My issue is, if I am buying a collector pedal, I would try to determine that it hasn't been messed with and is all original, as best the owner can tell - thats all I ask.
Its frustrating to buy something that isn't what they said it was ... ie one of my PH-1r "worked perfect" but alas, it "clicked" when engaged and disengaged (i got it cheap because it was missing the two larger knobs about $50, i bet the seller honestly didn't know it was defective)
my OD-1 had the same issue (the clicking when engaged/disengaged - not the missing knobs) but Laurie fixed it for me - it was D9 causing the plop/click - it was soldered in the wrong way around (a factory fault though)
might be worth it to post some pics of the board in the Modifications and Technical Issues Forum.
cheers,
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
4854 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2009 : 14:37:35
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Originally posted by MullyFX
my OD-1 had the same issue (the clicking when engaged/disengaged - not the missing knobs) but Laurie fixed it for me - it was D9 causing the plop/click - it was soldered in the wrong way around (a factory fault though)
might be worth it to post some pics of the board in the Modifications and Technical Issues Forum.
cheers,
mully
Speaking of your OD-1 Mully... when I fixed it (no new parts, and a professional repair, so no change to the pedal value  ), I didn't have any flux remover so it looks as if it has been soldered.
If you want to remove the flux from the back of the board where there has been soldering, get something like this (your local supplier will have something equivalent):
MG Chemicals 4140-400G http://www.mgchemicals.ca/products/4140.html
Used with care, it will remove the flux and it will look the board is brand new.
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