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leonard d rock
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Philippines
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Posted - 01/22/2010 :  01:21:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
last year or so there was a discussion about these pedals and somebody posted a scan of an old boss ad/catalog showing the difference between the chorus, phaser and flanger. does anybody remember where that was? i tried the search but it didn't come up.


thanks,

leonard

Edited by - leonard d rock on 01/23/2010 09:49:25

PaulH
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Posted - 01/22/2010 :  14:46:23  Show Profile  Visit PaulH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Do you mean what the actual pedals look like, or what the actual effect does?
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leonard d rock
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Philippines
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Posted - 01/23/2010 :  09:47:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the ad has some short description about delay times, sweep range differences etc...among the three pedals.
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Dirk
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Posted - 01/24/2010 :  16:52:07  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I know exactly what you mean, I expected it to be on the Bossarea site, but I couldn't find it either.
It has to be one of those old 80's magazines or ad's.

Bossarea, Help!
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FRANZONI
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Posted - 01/24/2010 :  19:49:31  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
As far as i was aware phasing came about from a attempt to recreate the rotary speaker effect..flanging and chorus came about from 'accidents' with tape delay and tape recording machines .... i'm not sure what you hope to get from the tech details in an old boss catalogue as the bos pedal version of these effects are pretty basic and designed mostly for guitar in mind...IMHO these effects are best judged with the ear..i have the CH-1,CE-2,BF-2 and the PH-2 and and they all are a different effects...you can get a chorusy effect with the BF-2 but the others do what they do... the best of them to my ears is the CE-2....i can recreate the 'chorus' effect you get off an old analog tape unit with the tape delay in my Pod XT pro if i want but for me the CE-2 stays on the board.. the late Les Paul and Scotty Moore both used/use boss chorus and delay pedals to recreate the effect of their 1950's recordings when playing live...
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leonard d rock
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Philippines
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Posted - 01/25/2010 :  05:45:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for your replies
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Rich_S
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Posted - 01/26/2010 :  20:24:33  Show Profile  Visit Rich_S's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oo! Oo! Oo! Mr. Kotter!

I have that ad! I used to have it framed on the wall of my office. Let me find the box it's in, and I'll scan it.

Mods: do you want a full-res version for the site? I expect I can only attach a small version for this thread.

Edit: Found it. Here's the small version:



The big one (600dpi) is 18MB. Let me know if anybody wants it.

Download Attachment: boss_ad_s.JPG
250.83 KB

Edited by - Rich_S on 01/27/2010 03:05:18
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aaronharmon
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Posted - 01/26/2010 :  20:52:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rich_S

Oo! Oo! Mr. Kotter!

I have that ad! I used to have it framed on the wall of my office. Let me find the box it's in, and I'll scan it.

Mods: do you want a full-res version for the site? I expect I can only attach a small version for this thread.

Edit: Found it. Here's the small version:



The big one (600dpi) is 18MB. Let me know if anybody wants it.

Download Attachment: boss_ad_s.JPG
250.83 KB



That's cool, thanks.

Aaron
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zerksies
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Posted - 01/26/2010 :  21:55:08  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I tried out a phaser yesterday, sounded almost like a flanger
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Radioheading
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/26/2010 :  21:56:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zerksies

I tried out a phaser yesterday, sounded almost like a flanger



Only better, right?
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Witloofboer
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Belgium
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Posted - 01/26/2010 :  21:58:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I always thought that Chorus was your original sound + the same a little bit 'off key'. That brings me to the next question. Why are flanger/chorus called 'modulation' effects, while delay is called 'time-based', as they are both 'time-based'.
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PaulH
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Posted - 01/26/2010 :  23:51:22  Show Profile  Visit PaulH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Chorus/flanger etc add a modulation (usually some variation of a sine wave) to the delayed signal... this is what produces the watery effect.

A delay puts no modulation on the repeat... it just repeats as-is.
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FRANZONI
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Posted - 01/27/2010 :  00:27:32  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The late Les Paul and Scotty Moore and a lot of the older guys who started out using tape echoes used/use the CH-1 or some other boss chorus to give the 'chewed up tape' effect of the old tape echoes....

Zerks..i know what you mean about flanging and phasing sounding similar ..personally i've always found phasing to be a more dryer sound and flanging to be more watery sounding especially something like your EH electric mistress....
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zerksies
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Posted - 01/27/2010 :  00:42:07  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FRANZONI

The late Les Paul and Scotty Moore and a lot of the older guys who started out using tape echoes used/use the CH-1 or some other boss chorus to give the 'chewed up tape' effect of the old tape echoes....

Zerks..i know what you mean about flanging and phasing sounding similar ..personally i've always found phasing to be a more dryer sound and flanging to be more watery sounding especially something like your EH electric mistress....

Franzoni you know how much i love the electric mistress.I like to keep the flanger's setting a little lite for my taste i really don't dig a very thick sound for a flanger. So i put a very slow rate of delay on the phaser a little.It almost sounded like a mistress to me. it was very close but not quite there, It seemed to have the high pingy of the filter matrix on the mistress,which i love it's a pedal i think i might keep in the line up. I think i am gonna hold it for awhile a see how it grows on me
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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 01/27/2010 :  02:19:12  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Nice one....what sort of phaser is it ..? is it one of the boss PH series...?.....
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leonard d rock
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Philippines
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Posted - 01/27/2010 :  03:11:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rich_S

Oo! Oo! Oo! Mr. Kotter!

I have that ad! I used to have it framed on the wall of my office. Let me find the box it's in, and I'll scan it.

Mods: do you want a full-res version for the site? I expect I can only attach a small version for this thread.

Edit: Found it. Here's the small version:



The big one (600dpi) is 18MB. Let me know if anybody wants it.

Download Attachment: boss_ad_s.JPG
250.83 KB



Yes thats it. Thanks a lot Rich S
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