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Vim Fuego
Gold Member

Denmark
566 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2006 :  14:52:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What happend here??

The original listing - not sold for 350$ BIN:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&item=130000728034

Heres the relisted item - sold for 628$ BIN:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130001243516

Cheers

stahlhart
Platinum Member

1318 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2006 :  18:04:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Take a look at the buyer's feedback. Not whether it's positive or negative, but how long he's been on eBay, how much he's spent, and what he's spent it on.

I honestly don't think he gives a rat's ass whether it was $350 or $628...
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2006 :  19:07:15  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i just dont understand how someone can justify spending 630 on a single pedal.
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fuzzface
Bronze Member

United Kingdom
121 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2006 :  19:14:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I spotted this one too.

I've been following what this guy's been buying for a while (I've even bid against him on a few things) but I reckon he must be pretty well off and sometimes spends ridiculous amounts just to get all the pedals.

That's some collection of pedals he has now!
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stahlhart
Platinum Member

1318 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2006 :  19:32:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StratoSphere

i just dont understand how someone can justify spending 630 on a single pedal.



That's exactly my point: in the past ten days alone, he's spent over $2,000.00 on eBay, just about all of it on effects pedals (and a couple of David Bowie albums). Two GE-7s and two SD-1s in that time, and the two SD-1s were bought at the same moment from the same seller, one modified and one not. All in just the past ten days.

He's buying toys faster than they're even showing up on his doorstep -- either he's a dealer with a store full of stupid customers, or he's laundering money. I don't see any rhyme or reason in the buying that would suggest that he's any sort of serious musician.

Edited by - stahlhart on 06/25/2006 19:34:49
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 06/26/2006 :  13:39:01  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
^^^wish i had that problem...
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de_krar
Copper Member

Netherlands
26 Posts

Posted - 06/28/2006 :  22:30:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey, I owned that SP-1 for a while! Sold it to some guy for about $315 a couple of weeks ago. Didn't realize it could do THAT much on the bay

Edited by - de_krar on 06/28/2006 22:33:01
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de_krar
Copper Member

Netherlands
26 Posts

Posted - 06/28/2006 :  22:45:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bye the way, it's not a 1977 pedal, like the seller claims it to be. It's a black switch, with serial number 9800. That makes it 1980, right?
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starr36
Platinum Member

Canada
1172 Posts

Posted - 06/29/2006 :  01:48:22  Show Profile  Visit starr36's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The buyer, I believe, is purchasing commercially for local resale in Italy, possibly some for personal collection. Buys gazillion pedals.

I had the prividge of selling two pedals to arthurdent, an XT-2 and CH-1, and neither were collectible per se but I did price them a bit higher than what average sell for and he used BIN. money arrived fast and communication was perfect, shipping city was ROME.

I would guess that, local street prices for boss pedals in Europe are probably double local street/pawnshop prices in North America and likely he can still sell on the street in europe for more than 50% ontop of ebay prices.

You can figure that anything in "europe" on the street is probably double our money. I dunno, but that's how it was when i've been overseas. A McDonald's Value meal (wow what an example eh) converted back to our money was about 3.5x - imaging shelling out $18.99 uS / $20cdn for big mac combo.

that guy is a fantastic buyer; pray he bids on your product because payment ws fast and completely hassle free sale!
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 06/29/2006 :  02:59:18  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
so this guy buys pedals off ebay all day, and probably sells them in the streets of Italy for double the price..

think its about time i moved to Europe.
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starr36
Platinum Member

Canada
1172 Posts

Posted - 06/29/2006 :  04:28:32  Show Profile  Visit starr36's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StratoSphere

so this guy buys pedals off ebay all day, and probably sells them in the streets of Italy for double the price..

think its about time i moved to Europe.



I'll bet he's a music store owner OR music equipment wholesaler etc/specialist/importer, there is just no pattern to what he buys, pays "whatever" and loads of duplicates; sounds like a wholesaler of some sort to me, but what do I know. PURE SPECULATION on my part!!!

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stahlhart
Platinum Member

1318 Posts

Posted - 06/29/2006 :  17:01:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess that I'll have to backpedal on my last assessment, then -- not living in Europe, I can't possibly have an idea of what the market is like, so what seems overpriced here might not be over there after all. Not "stupid" at all, just a different cost structure than here.

But then you'd think that U.S. eBay sellers who are willing to ship things worldwide would, even after factoring shipping charges into the equation, be able to hold costs down in Europe. Mabye fewer people shop online in Europe, and folks like "arthurdent" are just taking advantage of that.

Wonder what the SP-1 got marked up to -- or mabye that was for his own collection, bought by the proceeds from the other sales?
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starr36
Platinum Member

Canada
1172 Posts

Posted - 06/29/2006 :  23:54:34  Show Profile  Visit starr36's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes the local cost structures are very different. In western europe, most hobby stuff (except locally made) are probably double after exchange rates than Canada or USA; Car makers like Mercedes, VW et al, have european versions and they are all at least DOUBLE the price, i.e if you priced a VW GOLF in North America say at about $23,000, it would be DOUBLE that over there. Produce and meat, dairy etc is heavily subsidized so it is the same price or sometimes LESS.

Here in Calgary, my house is for sale over over $x. (more than doubled in 4 years!!!) and PEOPLE IN THE UK SELL A LITTLE ROW HOUSE AND COME HERE TO BUY 2.5 HOUSES.

YES THE econmies are different!

Edited by - starr36 on 07/05/2006 07:54:59
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