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Dingus
Silver Member
USA
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 Posted - 09/07/2005 : 20:12:11
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I know they are supposed to have a really nice analog sound, and were used by many famous musicians, but honestly is it worth the big bucks? don't they only have a really short delay time, like 330ms or less?
I just want some clarification, is it all for that warm analog sound? the famous people that have used it? or what? |
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boss freak
Gold Member
USA
663 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2005 : 20:20:23
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My thought is that, yes, it's for the "warm analog tone".
Among analog delays though, I don't think the DM2 is that great when compared to (for example) the Ibanez AD9. The DM2 is very dark sounding to me and seems a bit muddy. I've often heard it described as "buttery" but I'd say it's more like molasses.
You can find it for a reasonable price though. I just grabbed one for $80 US, compared to the average eBay price which is considerably higher. You just have to hunt around.
For longer delay times, your best bet is a DD2 or DD3 with a "high cut mod". |
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srieck
Copper Member
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Posted - 09/07/2005 : 21:05:21
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I've got a DM-2 , an early DD-3 and a DD-5.
The DM-2 is nice and warm but limited. nice for slapback and quick echoes. The repeats trail off with less high-end than the input signal. That's a characteristic that most people like about analog delays. 330ms isn't much though.
The DD-5 is practical with it's very long delays and tap tempo. The repeats in this seem to be sonic copies of the input signal ie: they retain the exact same tone and fade. A nice practical delay but not too exciting.
My favorite is my DD-3 (it has the early wide chip like those in the DD-2 which is supposed to be better than the later DD-3 but I don't know) It sounds the best of all of them to me. Believe it or not, the repeats on this progressively get warmer similar to an analog delay. This would be my choice if I could keep only one.
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arcanon1313
Silver Member
USA
414 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2005 : 21:44:19
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| I'd say it's the sound ppl are after. I've tried a couple of different analog delays and their very different from digital, But I think that the DD-2, and the early DD-3's are close to the analog sound. Would I pay the high ebay prices? No. In the end i think I'll just build my own analog delay. |
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phenry20
Bronze Member
USA
105 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2005 : 00:29:21
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| Yes, the sound. But also - the Feedback! Having one of these puppies that self oscillates just perfectly is an aural thing of sonic beauty. Digital delay's can oscillate as well, but the analog ciruitry just get's into a realm where everything else, no matter how modeled it is, will just be an imitation. Then of course, they all have their own personality when it comes to this function. And then has someone tweaked with it? That's why some people will sell a DM-2 and get another one if they are trying to find a particular sound that might exist in one, but not in another. Again, there are good digital units that will give you the same idea ( Line 6 Echo Park ), but one of these BBD old one's can be a happening thing indeed. |
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arcanon1313
Silver Member
USA
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Posted - 09/08/2005 : 00:45:30
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| I agree with phenry. the DD-2 self oscillates but not like an analog delay does. I'm not saying that analog delays are better than digital delays (they don't have as long of delay times is my only gripe about them) but they are a necessity among guitar players. If only they didn't cost so damn much I'd buy one in a heartbeat! |
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phenry20
Bronze Member
USA
105 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2005 : 01:08:49
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I know a guy at a local dealer that carried Way Huge stuff, Encore Music, in Minneapolis, MN that when I told him what Way Huge Aqua Puss delays were going for these days ( Avg $850 ), he laughed and said that he almoat couldn't give them away when you could get them. People would be like, "Only 300 millesecond's? - No way!" It just goes to show you. At one point people didn't want silver facr Fender amps, just black face. Then when all the black face stuff was too spendy $$$ ( return on investment, the American way, baby ) - all of the sudden people wanted the silver face stuff. And the price started going up. Same with Fender 3 bolt neck 70's models, same with... Supply & Demand, it's all about Supply and da-man.  |
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boss freak
Gold Member
USA
663 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2005 : 03:16:42
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| Oscillation in an analog delay is of course much cooler than a digital pedal, but for use simply as a delay in the "traditional" sense (meaning slapback effects or ambience) I still prefer a digital delay with a high-cut mod. Similar enough in tonal quality for live use, and much easier to find a "set and forget" setting in my experience. |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2005 : 07:21:45
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There are different uses for DM-2 and DD-2.
DM-2 is really good for short slapback delays because the repeats are dark and don�t interfer with the direct "treblier" signal. This is very usable to get a nice sound, short delay-times when you never really notice a delay. This fatten the sound a lot.
Digital delays are not as good at this (maybe the modded ones??), you hear that the delay is on and the tone is not as fat.
For longed delays (let�s say over 150 ms), used more for effect than fattening, I like digital more, very usable for looping (someone tried make looping with 300ms....).
For very short delays nothing beats an analog in my opinion. |
Edited by - Goran on 09/08/2005 07:22:50 |
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What's so great about the DM-2/DM-3?
