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hungrymusician
Bronze Member
Malaysia
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 Posted - 07/22/2006 : 13:06:39
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| Hi,just got my cs-1.the problem is when a note is played,theres like an unwanted delay at the beginning,the first note is very soft at first,then a very obvious 'pop'or snappy effect.maybe this is the 'pumping'that some describe?well its so unatural and to me it sounds just wrong.same situation on any setting,start to wonder is this normal,or mines faulty or i need to get it set up right?by the way i have a cs-2 to compare,when set up in the same position,doesnt give me this problem,but adds a nice compression.do like to hear from u guys who have the answer,thanks! |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 07/22/2006 : 16:14:17
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that doesnt sound natural at all. worst case is that its broken, but you said theres a delay which could be the attack setting. however ive never used a CS-1 so this is just a guess. good luck |
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Roger
Bronze Member
USA
81 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2006 : 21:10:56
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I have a CS-1 and what you're describing does not sound normal...My CS-1 definitely does not cover as broad of a range as my CS-2 or
CS-3; meaning that it's more limited in what I can use it for. To me it's more of an effect. More of a one trick Pony I guess, but it's a really cool trick  |
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diggum12
Silver Member
USA
282 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2006 : 19:49:27
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What kind of power supply are you using it with? |
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hungrymusician
Bronze Member
Malaysia
95 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2006 : 20:34:16
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| im using a dunlop brick,as for other boss pedals.i actually notified the seller,but according to him,he's very sure theres no problem and said that was the sound of the 70s or something,well,i tested it thoroughly again,after much playing,i think its like just acceptable sometimes,bt sometimes not.its like cant really say its faulty bt then again cant say its not,bt this time i think the delay is not that obvious anymore as i have compared it to the cs-2 earlier.the loud percussive thud on the beginning of every note i play is still very obvious.but maybe thats just me...whatever it is,its definitely not for me. |
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Austen
Bronze Member
50 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2006 : 10:25:38
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The power supply point is a good one.
You know the early effects run on the ASA adapter (12v), which is internally converted down to 9v,right? If you use a standard 9v unit the effect will only be seeing about 6v.
Have you tried it with a fresh battery? |
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hungrymusician
Bronze Member
Malaysia
95 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2006 : 14:47:01
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| oooh...i dint know that.will try it with a 9v battery some other time.bt thats not good for me either as i prefer using power supply.if thats the case,are all other older pedals behave similarly?do u know which ones? |
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Austen
Bronze Member
50 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2006 : 10:32:38
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Yeah it's a little hidden SNAFU with the early vs the newer Boss pedals.
It will say on the baseplate sticker which one to use.
If you want to use adapters and you have a few of the early ones, you may need to get yourself an EARLY ASA or other regulated 12v adapter.
Just to mess things up some more.... Boss released 9v ASA adapters for a little while before changing the title to PSA.
Just check with a multimeter.
Oh....also, for many years any early Boss pedal that came in to an authorised service center was converted to PSA specs Ie one diode and resister were removed and the LED was usually converted from the flash-check style to on when the pedals engaged.
So...if there's an obvious difference with performance and/or LED brightness between battery and power supply with an early pedal, this is what is probably happening.
Hope that helped!
Cheers, Austen.
BTW SNAFU=WW2 acronym : Situation Normal All F*@#ed Up
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hungrymusician
Bronze Member
Malaysia
95 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2006 : 21:34:41
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o i c...think that did help,thanx Austen |
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Roger
Bronze Member
USA
81 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2006 : 06:18:51
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Hey Austen,
I'm curious about something you and others have mentioned...the whole power supply thing. I have a bunch of old MIJ and new MIT pedals and have always used my PSM-5 Power supply with a PSA120 AC Adapter and I've never had any issues? 
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Austen
Bronze Member
50 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2006 : 06:50:31
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Well it's about optimal operating voltages.
First check the bases for advice on which adapter voltage is required.
Note that certain circuits will chug along happily at lower voltages others will not.
Also note that, as I stated, many 12v (ASA)effects were converted as a matter of course if they came in for a service.
But, hey, if they work for you, they work! |
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diggum12
Silver Member
USA
282 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2006 : 17:35:17
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| Ah yes, my Brick does not work well with any of my (old) Boss compressors. Neither does my VS 1Spot. Try an old ASA, a Zoom Power Supply (300mA) or maybe even a Dano. |
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hungrymusician
Bronze Member
Malaysia
95 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2006 : 10:45:21
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| tested the cs-1 with a fresh battery,the result is still the same.the brick n 1spot are the only adaptors i have,sigh... |
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diggum12
Silver Member
USA
282 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2006 : 15:43:29
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Yes, sorry to forget to mention that, but that's a given too. Batteries give the same result. |
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strat714
Silver Member
USA
156 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2006 : 18:21:41
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Hungry Musician. There is no problem with your CS-1. What you are describing is what this pedal does. It always has a snappy almost clicking sound. The attack of this pedal is gradual. It senses the note and then reproduces it. In my experience all Boss compressors do this and that is why they are my least favorite pedal. One way to reduce this effect is to put it at the end of a chain of pedals. This goes against all the so called "rules" and I'm sure I've opened the flame gates by saying this, but Boss compressors are pooh. |
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hungrymusician
Bronze Member
Malaysia
95 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2006 : 04:05:11
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| Hmm...so thats the sound of the famous cs-1?!oh noooooooooo.....but i beg to differ that all boss compressors are like that,in my case the cs-2 is totally different.thanks anyway for ur opinion. |
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