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RossL
Bronze Member
USA
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 Posted - 04/06/2006 : 22:45:01
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| Are thier big differences between the Black and Green label model BOTH made in Japan? |
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RossL
Bronze Member
USA
63 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2006 : 00:46:13
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| I already have a CE-3 would the CE-2 be a noticable improvement? |
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starr36
Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 04/07/2006 : 04:09:41
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Originally posted by RossL
I already have a CE-3 would the CE-2 be a noticable improvement?
Nope.
I've run both.
Some CE-2s though are really warm - but there is no material diff between the CE-3 and CE-2, to my ears anyways.
CE-2 is a 84, CE-3 is an 85, similar years both have greenbacks. |
Edited by - starr36 on 04/07/2006 04:20:31 |
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svengali
Bronze Member
Australia
111 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2006 : 04:28:38
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interesting topic.
you know i reckon pedals within the same label color and factory can sound different.
i have two ce2's, one black label mij, one green label mij..and they do sound different...but not BIG different.
The one that sounded poor was the mit ce-2..it was just a bit flat.
So i gave it to my brother.
I rely on my pedals to sound good so what i do is buy a few of the same model, and sell the ones that dont sound as good.
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lazzrath
Bronze Member
Canada
103 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2006 : 10:00:51
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| Couldn't different brand caps, etc. change the sound? I'm really not sure whether Boss frequently varied their suppliers, but I think that would have an effect on tone, right? This means identical schematics could sound slightly different, I believe, though, I really don't know much about it. More just a stab in the dark. Maybe your CE-2's had different caps? |
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svengali
Bronze Member
Australia
111 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2006 : 12:13:06
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different caps, and op amps.
just try it for yourself..a/ b some pedals and youll hear the differences. some are brighter, more lively..some are 'flat'. Some are fatter sounding.
the ones i have noticed thaT are definately different are:
bf2 ..mij mit (big difference)
ge7 .. mij mit
ce2 ..mij mit
ds1 ..mij mit (huge difference)
dd2 .. mij mij
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2006 : 12:21:26
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| Svengali, when you say there is a huge difference between MIJ and MIT DS-1 are you talking about all MIT DS-1 or the ones after the shift of the op-amp (and probably more components), ca. 1994? |
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svengali
Bronze Member
Australia
111 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2006 : 12:45:04
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i meant there is a big difference between the different op amps, i realise i should have been more specific as the first few (thousand?)
mit ds1's were still the original op amp.
i truly found the mit ds1 to be buzzy, couldnt get a decent sound at all.
the early ds1 however i actually like and use as an overdrive only.
i have one of these early mit ds1's as well,(with the long op amp)
yet i prefer the mij..(caps?)
when i repair this early mit(power jack..had to borrow it)) ill do a 'tone off' and publish results here.
regards
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/07/2006 : 12:59:42
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Don't forget that the DS-1 has had two opamp changes. It went from using the TA7136AP, then BA728N and the latest versions are using the M5223AL.
I think the first and last sounds pretty similar. Not identical but I'll call it minor differences. I'm still looking for a DS-1 with the BA chip.
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MIJ CE-2 Black or Green label really different?
