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darthtd
Copper Member

Canada
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Posted - 01/08/2009 :  16:11:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi! first post on here and also a boss pedal nut!

well here it goes i just got the bcb-60, now i dont do any gigs i just play at home, since there seems to be a lot of experts here ( been reading here for a while) i wanted to know what was the best setup for my variaty of pedals, i have the cs-3, dd-3, ce-5, nf-1, mt-2, ge-7, ac-3, and the ns-2
i play every kind of music, so what's the best setup i could do to get the best out of every pedal?
thanks! looking foward to your suggestions!

Dr. Bob
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Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 01/08/2009 :  16:33:39  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi darthtd

Welcome to the forum from Australia.

It's always good to lurk a bit in the background, to get a feel of what a forum is really like.
I did it for many months before I joined.

As for your setup question, there have been many previous posts on this subject,
But I'm sure the guys will all pitch in, & give you their suggestions.

There are some tried & tested setups and,
there is another thought, opposite to the most commonly used connections,
in that, there are no rules, if you like to experiment, & you get a sounds that is all your own & you like.

Regards Dr. Bob
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Dirk
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Netherlands
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Posted - 01/08/2009 :  17:14:48  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Darthtd, there are indeed a couple more threads like yours but anyway, this is what I would do:

Generally, you would like all gain pedals such as distortions, compressors and eq's up front, since you don't have any pitch effects, octavers and wah pedals.
I consider the AC-3 an EQ as well, so that goes here too.

After that modulation effects - chorus, flanger, phaser although some phasers sound a lot cooler in front of a distortion.

Last in the chain come echo effects, like reverb and delays.

Noisegates could go first to eliminate noise from noisy pickups, or you could use one of the loops on your NS-2 to connect a noisy pedal like your MT-2 or CS-3.

If you have an effects loop, I'd suggest connecting all chorus, flanger and delay pedals here, to clean up your signal path a bit.
Also, since you have two noisegates, maybe you don't need to connect 'em both, but just use one or maybe nothing at all depending on the noise level.

But that's all depending on your guitar, amp and personal preference.
Keep us posted on how it went.

Edited by - Dirk on 01/08/2009 17:15:47
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DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 01/08/2009 :  18:25:06  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Welcome to Bossarea darthtd!
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zerksies
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USA
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Posted - 01/08/2009 :  18:27:50  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
what kind of guitars and amp are you using
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darthtd
Copper Member

Canada
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Posted - 01/08/2009 :  20:03:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for all the help!
my guitar (depends what i feel like playing) varies between a epiphone les paul custom or esp alexi laiho
both have humbuckers and my amp is a vox ad50vt,
now i always tought that either the ns-2 or nf-1 should go at the end of the line and starters would be distortion, when you say put the effects like chorus and delay into the ns-2 loop, does that mean i put the ns-2 first then in the send i plug either my dd-3 or my ce-5 then send it back to the ns-2 return?
i want to get the richest sound possible for my ac-3...
lol
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Dirk
Platinum Member

Netherlands
1309 Posts

Posted - 01/08/2009 :  20:28:56  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I meant your amps effects loop, not the NS-2.
Try the AC-3 first, to get the cleanest possible signal to the pedal.
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darthtd
Copper Member

Canada
12 Posts

Posted - 01/08/2009 :  22:13:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dirk

I meant your amps effects loop, not the NS-2.Try the AC-3 first, to get the cleanest possible signal to the pedal.


pardon my noob self, what do you mean? the effect on my ad50vt?
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Neaves
Silver Member

USA
151 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2009 :  01:12:32  Show Profile  Visit Neaves's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok from what i saw on vox's website this amp has no effect loop.
The 100 version does though.
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Right Foot Boss
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USA
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Posted - 01/09/2009 :  08:28:36  Show Profile  Visit Right Foot Boss's Homepage  Send Right Foot Boss an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Generally speaking I like to keep all my comps and dirt in my NS-2 loop. As it sits now My NS-2 is at the start of my chain, but I have read that if you put it after delay you can get a nice anti-delay effect. Which goes to show that there is the guideline of filter>comp>dirt>mod>delay/reverb, and then there is you who is the real tone master when it comes to pedal placement. So experiment and share.
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Dirk
Platinum Member

Netherlands
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Posted - 01/09/2009 :  17:01:53  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]Originally posted by darthtd[i]
pardon my noob self, what do you mean? the effect on my ad50vt?



No, not effects built into your amp.
Most amps have 2 jacks for connecting external effects.
These jacks are usually labeled SEND and RETURN.
It enables you to connect any time based and modulation effects (chorus/delay) after the distortion if your amp has multiple channels for clean and distortion sounds.

As Neaves pointed out, your amp doesn't have that feature, so all this doesn't apply to your situation.
You can simulate this by connecting those effects before or after your MT-2, and listen to the difference it makes.
Then you'll know what I mean.
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