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Mansun
Gold Member
Spain
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 Posted - 05/20/2009 : 00:51:10
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Hi! I've been thinking about the way of getting this sound with a pedal for years, and only could get something appalling from my zoom 505 II multieffect that was slightly similar, but not what I wanted.
The sound in fact is in this video, from minute 7:06 onwards:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5tBsd_AzqI
I asked the singer and he told me he used a tc fireworx with his telecaster, but I'd like to reproduce it using pedals onstage. Maybe it envolves lots of flanger, chorus and delay, but I'm not sure, it's been bugging me for years as I said.
If you have the chance, you should listen to the whole song, it's my favourite from that sadly defunct band.
Thanks everyone! |
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PaulH
Gold Member
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Posted - 05/20/2009 : 01:09:01
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Reasonably clean amp, add some modulation (chorus/flanger) with alot of depth and reverb.
Kick in some distortion, delay, and use of a volume pedal as and when needed.
That's about it. |
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Mansun
Gold Member
Spain
564 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2009 : 01:26:27
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Could I avoid the volume pedal to 'kill' the attack? My pedalboard has no room for it. I have/will own flanger (rockotron), chorus (CE5), tremolo (Beh UT), delay (DD6) and distortion (Keeley DS1). That's all I can use...
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 05/20/2009 : 11:17:58
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I take it your talking about those big synth type swells...you can do it with the volume control on your guitar it you practice it....and it is a lot easier on a strat type guitar ..although some of the country players have it down on a tele...Danny Gatton and Roy Buchanan are two player who spring to mind as experts on this technique..even if you don't like their style of music/playing you can still learn stuff off them...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkbM1M1WN0w
the sound/quality is a bit naff but can get the idea from the intro..... |
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 05/20/2009 : 11:25:51
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A swell pedal will also give you the swells (that sounds dumb when I re-read it, but it's true!)
The SG-1 is good, but it probably won't give you the length of swell in the clip.
Oh, I just read your pedal limitations. Have to do the swells with the guitar volume like Franzoni mentioned. |
Edited by - Laurie on 05/20/2009 11:26:56 |
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jaymzHal
Silver Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/20/2009 : 14:38:02
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Concur with Franzoni and Laurie, if your guitar has a volume pot close to the bridge it's just a matter of practice. However, you might achieve some good "swell" sounds with the reverse delay setting on your dd-6 (indeed, I have a dvd of Eric Johnson doing just the opposite - using the volume knob on his guitar along with some muted notes to simulate the reversed guitar from Hendrix tracks like are you experienced!) combined with some modulation. However, if you don't have room for any more pedals, I can highly recommend giving this a go: use any pedal with a level control, put something like a small piece of wood and some grip tape (doesn't have to be glued on, just has to grip the knob) over the the level control and turn it sideways with your foot. With a bit of practice it's easy. If you play bare foot or you've got good hand-shoe co-ordination you can just do it with your feet directly onto the knob, but if you make it stand a little taller it's easier and you are less likely to kick any other settings out. I tend to turn knobs with my feet while I play (delay knobs, tremolo intensity, drive etc) but you have to be careful that you don't break them  I've been lucky so far... |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 05/20/2009 : 15:29:35
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Originally posted by jaymzHal if you don't have room for any more pedals, I can highly recommend giving this a go: use any pedal with a level control, put something like a small piece of wood and some grip tape (doesn't have to be glued on, just has to grip the knob) over the the level control and turn it sideways with your foot. With a bit of practice it's easy. If you play bare foot or you've got good hand-shoe co-ordination you can just do it with your feet directly onto the knob, but if you make it stand a little taller it's easier and you are less likely to kick any other settings out. I tend to turn knobs with my feet while I play (delay knobs, tremolo intensity, drive etc) but you have to be careful that you don't brake them I've been lucky so far...
I do the same with some of my pedals playing live as well..... |
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Mansun
Gold Member
Spain
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Posted - 05/20/2009 : 23:20:41
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Originally posted by Laurie
A swell pedal will also give you the swells (that sounds dumb when I re-read it, but it's true!)
The SG-1 is good, but it probably won't give you the length of swell in the clip.
Oh, I just read your pedal limitations. Have to do the swells with the guitar volume like Franzoni mentioned.
Thanks everyone! Well, if you know of just one pedal that does that sound I'll go and dump the Behringer tremolo and buy it right away! The SG-1 is pricey as hell, easy given it ceased from production in 1982. But I've come across this one on youtube that could be close to what I'm looking for. Watch it from 1:43 onwards:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPUt4GUHkUM
What do you think? The owner says he uses also a reverb pedal, so an amp could do the job, and maybe with chorus an distortion... |
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How do I get this sound?
