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RossL
Bronze Member
USA
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 Posted - 02/08/2007 : 17:44:25
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I would like to use a looper (don't know which would be best)to record rhythm guitar tracks for jamming with a bass and drummer.
I would play chords and record them, the first time through a verse and then play it back to improvise over. I would like to ba able to record a chorus (as a separate loop) also and then switch back and forth between the verse and chorus for allow for vaiations while we are playing the song. I do NOT want to record an entire song (verses and chorus) and just loop it.
If this can be done what pedal is best? (RC-20, RC-20XL or RC-2) |
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diggum12
Silver Member
USA
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Posted - 02/09/2007 : 01:22:54
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To do that right you'd want an RC-50.  |
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BossMan-01
Copper Member
Denmark
15 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2007 : 14:00:25
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I agree. You cannot do that with the RC-2 i know for sure. I believe the RC-20xl can do it aswell as the RC-50, but if you're going to get one of them id say the RC-50 is the real deal.  |
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Erik dP
Silver Member
Sweden
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Posted - 02/09/2007 : 15:08:24
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| I havn't had my RC-2 long enough to be sure, but if a few RC-2s could be used, one for each phrase, it might be an alternative. At least pricewise. |
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RossL
Bronze Member
USA
63 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2007 : 15:29:29
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Thanks for the replies. After I posted I kind of figured out that the RC-2 and 20 would probably not work.
I really didn't want to spend $400-$500. Does any other product do this? |
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shortpunks
Copper Member
USA
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Posted - 02/09/2007 : 16:32:58
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Maybe you can try the JamMan Looper? I played with a guy last week who used one live and it sounded very good. I don't think it's quite as expensive as the RC-50, but does it have the same features at the RC-20XL? Might be worth investigating.
I use my RC-2 live all the time, but my drummer and I are still adjusting to looped rhythm guitar parts. So far I tend to use it more for synth washes and pedal tones. I use it almost like the synth pedals Geddy Lee and Sting used to use live--I'll trigger a synth wash to compliment a verse or a chorus. It can sound really cool. Next I'm next going to use an old solid-state Ampeg guitar amp I have just for the loops--I'm going to send one line out from my RV-3 to the Loop Station and another to my main amp. I'm hoping it will make the sound a little more three-dimensional live, especially with the stereo outs on the RV-3.
The trick is going from your live rhythm sound/feel to looped rhythm tracks--when the Looper kicks in, the rhythm section has to be very strict about following the looped phrases, unless you are using a click or guide track, which helps to keep everything tight. The only exception I've found so far are blues patterns, which are easy to loop and also easy for a whole band to follow (which might be why the RC-2 comes with a pre-programmed 12-bar rhythm pattern as one of its sample demos). As others have mentioned, it's tough to switch from one loop to another. You can do it, but on the RC-2 you have to use the FS-5U footswitch and the Roland PCS-31 cable to make it happen, which adds a lot to the price of the pedal if you buy all those extras. I usually loop a verse and a chorus in one pass and use that instead of trying to switch from one pre-set loop to another.
Like I said, though, the RC-2 has been a lot of fun especially for writing new songs...you should try one out at a guitar shop and see what you think of it. A friend of mine has even taken to calling my RC-2 "Roland" and referring to "him" as the third member of my band.
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