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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
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 Posted - 12/01/2008 : 04:47:35
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| Has anybody tried a set of these. i have checked everything and grounded and sheilded everything on my guitar.I can do a quick fix with my ns-2 to get rid of the noise, but i don't wanna depend on it.So has anyone made the switch to these if so did it work? |
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verivorax
Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 12/01/2008 : 05:33:02
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gold-label noiseless are meh (to my ears)
SCN are better
Levinson Blade pickups are better still
Kinman are probably the best
also look @ Lace Sensors, or EMG, or Duncan Duckbuckers
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or relish the delicious hum, for with it comes the ojo in the mojo. 
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 12/01/2008 : 13:34:38
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Originally posted by verivorax
gold-label noiseless are meh (to my ears)
SCN are better
Levinson Blade pickups are better still
Kinman are probably the best
also look @ Lace Sensors, or EMG, or Duncan Duckbuckers
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or relish the delicious hum, for with it comes the ojo in the mojo.
i find duncans a bit too muddy sounding compared to fenders if you like that fender sparkle.... |
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verivorax
Platinum Member
Canada
1185 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2008 : 13:41:18
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I think the sparkle goes away when the noise is removed.. I can't even recall the last time I heard duckbuckers, but they did the trick at the time.
IMO, the best sound is some nice OLD fender pickups. deal with hum. have great tone. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2008 : 14:25:08
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"IMO, the best sound is some nice OLD fender pickups. deal with hum. have great tone"
+1...thats the conclusion i came to a while back as well....
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zentropa
Gold Member
USA
837 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2008 : 00:30:46
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i wrote a lot about this the last time you asked it :P
http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5780&whichpage=1
duckbuckers only seem to work really well if you are lucky enough to get the pole pieces to line up... which usually only happens in 1 of the 3 pickup spots if that. they do have an alnico-ish bite but i never felt they really pulled off true single coil.
dimarzio virtual vintage are definitely the best budget end noiseless single coils that still sound mostly like a single coil.
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2008 : 02:05:43
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| i fixed the problem i put my ns-2 in the first spot in my board. my tu-2 was sucking tone from me worked out for the best |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2008 : 11:57:50
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| In case anyone is interested, i pulled the midboost out of the jap squier strat and put it back to stock strat wiring with the vintage noiseless pickups..... nice sparkly strat tone...this has been my main NO 2 guitar for a while now but i was not getting on with the change in volume/tone with the midboost installed compared to my Americian strat...tried it in the house no problems through an amp... only when it ws on a plugboard with the computer did i get a little bit of background hum ..otherwise completely noiseless... |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2008 : 12:34:31
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Originally posted by FRANZONI
In case anyone is interested, i pulled the midboost out of the jap squier strat and put it back to stock strat wiring with the vintage noiseless pickups..... nice sparkly strat tone...this has been my main NO 2 guitar for a while now but i was not getting on with the change in volume/tone with the midboost installed compared to my Americian strat...tried it in the house no problems through an amp... only when it ws on a plugboard with the computer did i get a little bit of background hum ..otherwise completely noiseless...
Hi franzoni
I'm both happy for you
And sad, I guess you know the reason
But all is cool.
Any news about the Amp repair, in the other "drunken drummers" thread?
Regards Dr. Bob |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2008 : 14:20:28
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| I sent off for the parts to Tube Town in Germany so as soon as i get them i will update you.....i don't know if i told you Doc but i found a loose wire from the input power transformer to the bias supply board in ther musicman so i'm hoping as soon electrolytic caps arrive and i re-connect this with some new output valves all will be good and both amps will be tip top again,the marshall is just a straight swap for the broken pots so it shouldn't be too hard.........the squier sounds pretty good through the Selmer i keep around the house even without the midbooster....i reckon i'm a clasic strat/tele sort of player.... |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2009 : 20:03:08
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just thought i would do a little update in case anyone was interested(i read zerskies sorted his prob with a NS-2)after using the vintage noiseless on a few gigs,i noticed she was a little bit duller than my american standard strat and lower in volume...and answering a question in a topic for ollie about volume pots got me thinking.....(are you all smelling the burning rubber yet...? )so i did a little research on the Fender forums and seemingly fender ships these pickups with 1 meg pots because they are some sort of stacked humbucker.....the consensus there was 1 megs were a bit much on the treble side and 250k were too dull(this is what i put in as per normal strat wiring) so last night i switched them around for some 500k pots.....major improvment on tone and sound with no noise,another tip i read in a post over there was to screw the noisless pickups down lower than normal,just above the scratchplate to take some of the harshness out of them,the guys over there reckon it has to do with the amount on magnets in them compared to regular SC's that they don't need to be high or close to the strings,i normally keep my pickups down pretty low anyway so it's not a problemo for me... are they are sweet as my american strat..?.i would have to say no... but still pretty good and remember i have the U.S.A. strat nearly 20 years as my main guitar so it's well played in and the pickups would have aged along with it getting a bit sweeter sounding over the years with the wood drying out etc.... the blue squier will be my NO-2 for the forseeable future but i'm planning on changing the pickups in the tele some time in the future ..probably will go with something different,i hear kinmans are good...?..also starting to like my yamamha SG again but i would be afraid of this guitar getting broken on some of the gigs we do..fenders are a lot more robust plus their a lot lighter the yammy weighs more than a Les Paul.... ...... |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2009 : 21:31:44
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| well i decided to put fender texas specials in this strat of mine that i was having noise with.One of my olders strats has them in there but it has a rosewood neck. i am gonna put them in my maple neck.The texas for me has execptable noise to where i won't need a ns2 |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2009 : 23:12:23
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| better off changing the pickups than a pedal IMHO....i don't like noisegates as they kill feedback and natural sustain.... texas specials are supposed to be good..... |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2009 : 02:57:36
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Hi Franzoni & guys
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i put in as per normal strat wiring) so last night i switched them around for some 500k pots.....major improvment on tone and sound with no noise
That comment surprised me a bit, especially the part about "Noise".
I knew that you were going to get more top end, as you have just halved the loading on your pickups.
As you know My 52RI Tele has 1M pots, & it makes a big difference.
The guy that used to teach my Classical playing son; Has the same Tele with lower value pots, & you can really hear the difference in tone, & brightness.
My Alnico SC - Blackie Strat is fitted with 500K pots. (say slowly M-a-g-i-c  )
He much prefers the tone of my Tele, but it very anal, & won't let me change the pots in his guitar.
Even though I get to work on lots of his other pedals & toys.
And especially, the "pleas fix it right now jobs" I have a gig in 30 mins.
I'm really glad it work out for you Franzoni
Regards Dr. Bob |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2009 : 15:48:23
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Hello Dr Bob
yep i like the twang.... the midbooster circuit made the guitar too dark sounding for me....the 500k pots really made a big difference..the part about noise isn't really that important as i've lived with regular strat pickups since i started out..even my first guitar(Fender Coronado II) has single coils in it,i got the noiseless pickups originally because i was bringing the squier up to the same spec as a clapton strat..but the 500's do make a big difference to the sound..the only reason i didn't go for 1 megs is the consensus over on the Fender forums is it made the pickup a little too bright and the musicman amp is a bright sounding amp as well so the 500's seemed to do the trick...... |
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