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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 11/17/2007 :  15:48:05  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
hey franz, i will look into that active system.

Defrag brought up a great point. That Schecter is so awesome looking. ive been eyeballing the Schecter Hellraiser for some time now. its true what he said as well about some guitars under $1000 being totally worthy and comparable to Gibsons and Gretsch's that cost twice as much.
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 11/17/2007 :  18:56:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dr Bob asked:
"Goran, on your Hwy One tele, what pickups did you install?
And in your Tele 52RI do you have info or Schematics for the,
difference between the Vintage & modern wiring or wiring KIT.
If you have can you please PM it to me."

On the Highway tele I have a Lundgren (Swedish botique winder) hot Vintage in bridge position, that�s a pickup modelled after early 50�s hotter tele pickups, hand wound extremely care taken to replicate vintage specs. That�s a very good pickup for sure.
In neck position I have a DiMarzio Twang King, the best tele neck pickup I ever heard, and I have tried many. Not a bit muddy, it have the sound of a good strat neck pickup.
I also have replaced all pots, switch and internal cablage.

For the wiring kit, I have it in the case long way back in my cellar.... I don�t know if there is a description. I�m pretty sure you can find the schematics on the net.
I keep that tele stock.

Edited by - Goran on 11/17/2007 18:58:23
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visserman
Platinum Member

1072 Posts

Posted - 11/18/2007 :  16:02:22  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Bob, Mainly older ones in my answer to your question. Am I now considered to be a snob?

Goran, did you paint patterns on your guitars? Things like what Satriani and Vai have done to their instruments? Or do you mimic an older look with your oilpaint?

Cheap Acoustics verser Higher End Ones? Be carefull, as the same applies to electrics, at times some cheaper ones really sound good, and not that different to higher end ones. You need to remember that any guitar is a ONE OFF, so really, we hype a lot about expansive guitars, but cheap ones can be nice as well.

Factories selling higher-end ones and cheap ones at the same time [Like Fender, IBanez, Gibson] will make any effort to get their higher-end ones to feel different. If you can overcome this "feel-thing" by changing parts you may have made the difference much smaller, but I guess, you will also have spend a lot more than the intial asking price.
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 11/18/2007 :  18:24:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Visserman asked:
Goran, did you paint patterns on your guitars? Things like what Satriani and Vai have done to their instruments? Or do you mimic an older look with your oilpaint?

As a Swede I have some trouble witgh English so I guess I wrote s little cryptic....
I meant that to relict a guitar is about the same longsome procedure as to paint with oil colours. You make a little at a time, see what you�ve get and continue. Then another "hit" some days later etc.
This is really interesting as the goal is to get the guitar look like it have been played for years. And it got to be realistic, for example chrome parts on a tele doesn�t age as fast as nickel parts. I�ve seen and played a lot of old Fenders and Gibsons, that helps.
Relicting could be a nice topic in itself!
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visserman
Platinum Member

1072 Posts

Posted - 11/19/2007 :  12:21:24  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Goran,

Your English is excellent, your posts do not often contain the strange typeerrors mine have.

Okay so you go for an older look, yep that can be nice.

Right so you know all about older Fenders, well I have a 76 Strat and the finish on this guitar had made me think about what you see often with older Strats [60s and 70s ones] I can peel the finish off this one when I rub hard with a cloth. Of Course there is not need to do this, but still it made me think about the damage on the finish: Most of it is in the places where the body of guitar makes contact with back of your arms. In certain places of the body the finish is better than in other parts.

We all know about guitars which hardly do have any finish left on them, and I never really understood how this could be.
Well with bad finishjobs like mine, I can see how this could happen.

It seems that in the late 60s and 70s Fender economised on their finish jobs, so that is why some of them have more laquer than others.

Just wondering if you have any badly finished guitars among your Fenders, or anyone else perhaps?

The finish feels like it is not yet dry, seriously, after all these years, you can still dig your nails into it. The guitar itself it absolutely fine, great sounding, very light for a 76 Strat and the feel is good as well, it is just that finish.
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 11/20/2007 :  07:19:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well Visserman, your 76 Strat seems to have a really bad paint job or maybe the finish has reacted to something in the environment (if that is possible)? Are you sure it is the original finish?
In 1976 Fender didn�t use thin layer of cellulose lacquer, they used poly-urethane or something like that. That made a finish hard as a rock, you don�t wear that finish down, it cracks like glass. Later in the 70�s the finish got thicker and thicker, not good for the tone.

I have never had a Fender with a bad paint-job, I have had a 1977 Strat, with the thick glossy poly-something, for about ten years and I used it on a lot of gigs. There wasn� t many scratches on that one�. I won�t say it was a great Strat but it was decent for sure and one of my first high quality guitars. I still regret I traded it for a Japan Squier and a 50W Marshall�
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visserman
Platinum Member

1072 Posts

Posted - 11/21/2007 :  12:09:48  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Goran,

The finish is orginal, I am very sure about that, the guitar is light and the finish is not thick. I know what you saying about finish of late 70s as that did get thicker.

Did finish react with environment? No, it just is a bad finish job, but who cares as the guitar sounds fine.
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DeFrag
Moderator

USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 11/21/2007 :  22:31:42  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't mar, drill, paint, sticker, or otherwise compromise a beautifully apportioned guitar. But a run of the mill Mexican Fender, sub-$500 axe, or some off-brand cheapy.. perhaps
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member

Canada
1351 Posts

Posted - 11/23/2007 :  04:22:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Goran, I see a lot of people from Sweden on the forum but I never see the mention of Hagstrom guitars. An origional Viking or Super Swede can fetch a pretty good price here and the basses are held in very high regard and are hard to come by.
Are the newly reintroduced models still made in Sweden?

Edited by - pedals 4 pv on 11/23/2007 04:55:04
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 11/23/2007 :  07:29:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pedals 4 pv

Goran, I see a lot of people from Sweden on the forum but I never see the mention of Hagstrom guitars. An origional Viking or Super Swede can fetch a pretty good price here and the basses are held in very high regard and are hard to come by.
Are the newly reintroduced models still made in Sweden?



No they are made in Korea (or China?)
In Sweden Hagstrom for many years had a bad reputation by us playing rock, Hagstrom was for oldies playing traditional dance music. But that has changed over the years.
You can still find Hagstroms i Sweden at fairly low prices, many was sold during the years.
I once bought a Pearly Hagstrom solid body from the late 50�s for about $10, this was in the mid 70�s. I sold it to my best friend for $20 and thought I made a really good deal... He still have it....
But the old Hagstroms had really bad pickups in my opinion, but was well built.
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member

Canada
1351 Posts

Posted - 11/23/2007 :  08:30:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A lot of old guitar names are back but made in Asia. Gretch, Danelectro, Dobro, National, Hagstrom, Airline...What's next reissue Teisco Del Rey's?
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ununtrium
Bronze Member

Germany
84 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2007 :  11:56:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi there!

With $4000 I would buy several guitars, because, for example, Les Pauls and Fender-type single coil guitars (esp. the Stratocaster and the Telecaster) occur in complementary distribution, regarding sound. The ground not covered by one is covered by the other. And then there is the go-between P-90, which should be in every guitarist's arsenal.

So I would buy the following:
- a Gibson Les Paul '57 Gold Top / '58 Plain Top Reissue (both go for roughly $2000)
- a G&L ASAT Classic (a Telecaster on steroids!)
- a G&L ASAT Special (also a Telecaster model, but with P-90s)

I am especially fond of those G&Ls, because they are about the best bargain out there. G&L was the last company of Leo Fender, where he kept refining his original designs. The result is guitars with wonderful tone and exceptional craftsmanship. This can all be had without the absurd overpricing one has to endure when buying Fender guitars. Somehow, G&Ls are still off the radar of most collectors. The models mentioned above go for about 600 USD each.

And those Gibson R7s and R8s are quite a deal at the moment, too.

With those guitars, I have, IMHO, the major bases covered with roughly $800 to spend on

Cheers!

P.S.: All those prices are for used guitars, so I am not exactly spot on topic. Maybe, if those were new guitars, I would buy the R7 or R8 as well as an ASAT.
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visserman
Platinum Member

1072 Posts

Posted - 11/26/2007 :  12:18:25  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ununtrium

Hi there!

With $4000 I would buy several guitars, because, for example, Les Pauls and Fender-type single coil guitars (esp. the Stratocaster and the Telecaster) occur in complementary distribution, regarding sound. The ground not covered by one is covered by the other. And then there is the go-between P-90, which should be in every guitarist's arsenal.

So I would buy the following:
- a Gibson Les Paul '57 Gold Top / '58 Plain Top Reissue (both go for roughly $2000)
- a G&L ASAT Classic (a Telecaster on steroids!)
- a G&L ASAT Special (also a Telecaster model, but with P-90s)

I am especially fond of those G&Ls, because they are about the best bargain out there. G&L was the last company of Leo Fender, where he kept refining his original designs. The result is guitars with wonderful tone and exceptional craftsmanship. This can all be had without the absurd overpricing one has to endure when buying Fender guitars. Somehow, G&Ls are still off the radar of most collectors. The models mentioned above go for about 600 USD each.

And those Gibson R7s and R8s are quite a deal at the moment, too.

With those guitars, I have, IMHO, the major bases covered with roughly $800 to spend on

Cheers!

P.S.: All those prices are for used guitars, so I am not exactly spot on topic. Maybe, if those were new guitars, I would buy the R7 or R8 as well as an ASAT.



You think you will still be able to play once you had all those beers??
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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member

USA
881 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2007 :  08:44:47  Show Profile  Visit Right Foot Boss's Homepage  Send Right Foot Boss an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I'd definetly blow it all on one guitar and am currently stashing cash to do so. But I'm afraid I'll need a couple thousand more than 4000 to get the prize that has caught my eyes.
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member

Canada
1351 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2008 :  09:27:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do tell Right Foot Boss, what sort of guitar are you looking at for six grand?
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