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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member
Canada
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 Posted - 09/30/2007 : 23:32:09
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When I get a new to me,used pedal I download the manual,read it and then refer the the Boss effects guidebook to decide where to place the pedal etc. When I got my AC-2 in a package deal with another pedal I followed this same ritual,but for some reason I didn't get it right. For some reason I decided that if it switches between two amps it must go at the end of the pedal chain. I tried it and it was horrid. I wrote it off as a glorified switch and put it on the spare pedal shelf,where it sat for some time. Last night I was again reading the Boss effects manual and there it was in black,white and colour! The AC-2 goes after the EQ! It is a pedal to change tonality just like the EQ! Why did I not see this before. I tried it in its proper place on my pedalboard and my eyes and especially my ears were opened. I play some country music and this
ac-2 in its proper position is just a great tool to get that old time sound. I still don't get the sound of my real Gibson jumbo but I can't use a delay or phaser on it either.
I suppose the moral of this story is if does sound horrid,something isn't right, unless you are playing a genre that is supposed to sound horrid. |
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MadSteven
Copper Member
Netherlands
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Posted - 09/30/2007 : 23:42:46
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EQ effects like an EQ-pedal, but also a Wahpedal and AC-2 are usually before or after the overdrive/distortion/fuzz-chain. In the case of AC-2, you usually don't put the AC-2 on and a DS-1 for example... So if you put it before or after the o/d/f-chain doesn't really matter.
The basic rule of setting up is: guitar --> tonebending (Whammy, octavers) --> pre-eq (usually wah) --> distortion (ie. DS-1, MD-2 etc.) --> fuzz (ie. Big Muff) --> overdrive (ie. Tubescreamer etc)--> post-eq (usually eq)--> delay (in detail, I'd say digi --> analog --> tape) --> chorus (long to short in detail) --> reverb (short (plate, spring) to long (room, hall) in detail).
My two cents.
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 10/01/2007 : 08:58:11
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Hi pedals 4 pv
Makes a lot of sense to me.
If you look at the schematic for the AC-2, it's nothing more than a glorified multi EQ circuit,
with a digital 1 of 4 decoder & switch, to select the 4 different acoustic simulations.
But the signal path is all analog, via some op-amp gyrators, of sorts.
I find that it's very touchy about signal levels, as the hi freq section distorts very easily, especially if you strum of pick hard, or have the level high on your electric guitar.
Regards Dr. Bob |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 10/01/2007 : 13:31:38
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i actually put mine first ( or 3rd just after compression and octave).
have you ever ran one of these after distortion? yikes. |
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 10/01/2007 : 21:08:53
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It doesn't sound bad after the BD-2 but the other distortions do sound awful behind the AC-2, heavy distortion is out of place in the bean and bacon genre anyway. |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 10/03/2007 : 13:44:25
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| ya, with this placement it sounds like a EQ pedal with bass and treble absolutely CRANKED and mids sucked out completely. this description may appeal to metal guys but trust me, its ugly. |
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