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fuzzface
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/01/2006 :  16:36:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Am new to these boards and really pleased to have found them - there's some really great info for Boss-heads here!

Just wondered if anyone could shed any light on a problem I have with my Boss DD-3 Pedal.

It's a version 1 Blue Label Made in Japan model with the wide chip on the circuit board.

It has a wierd problem where when you first connect the power to it either when an AC Adapter or battery is first plugged in, it takes about five seconds before you can actually stomp on the pedal to get it to switch on. After this though, it will switch on and off instantly as it should. It seems like there's a faulty capacitor somewhere but any ideas which one it's likely to be.

It's not a huge problem, just a bit annoying and I'd like to fix it if possible.

Any help gratefully received!

fuzzface
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United Kingdom
121 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2006 :  18:04:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry, just realised I should have posted this in the technical forum - my apologies!
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svengali
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Australia
111 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2006 :  05:45:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i have two of those pedals and they both do the same thing.(dd2)
perhaps boss should do a safety recall?
I am very bad at electronics, but i reckon this sounds like a leaky cap issue.

svengali
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starr36
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Canada
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Posted - 05/02/2006 :  08:55:06  Show Profile  Visit starr36's Homepage  Reply with Quote
guys, that is NORMAL for the pedal. i read about that power-up delay in the owner's manual or in the service notes publication. this only applies to DD-2s and big chip DD-3s. all 7 of my DD-2s and a big chip DD-3 I had all behaved this way. nuthing to worry about!
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fuzzface
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United Kingdom
121 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2006 :  11:08:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmmm... strange.
There's no mention of this power up delay in the manual for the DD-3 or DD-2.

Starr36 - do you have a copy of the service notes where it mentions this - I'd be really interested to see them.

It's just wierd because if this is normal, I don't know of any other Boss pedal that takes time to 'warm up'. I know the power consumption of the DD-2 and early DD-3 is quite high compared to other pedals so could this be what causes it? Maybe this is why it's called the Digital (power-up) Delay LOL
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bossarea
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Posted - 05/02/2006 :  11:36:03  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fuzzface

Sorry, just realised I should have posted this in the technical forum - my apologies!

You can move it by editing the original post and choosing a different forum
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StratoSphere
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Canada
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Posted - 05/02/2006 :  13:29:08  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
my DD-5 does something like that, but when i first plug it in, the LED turns on and stays on for about 10 seconds. during this 10 seconds, i can not use the delay or turn it off, but the red light stays on..?
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fuzzface
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United Kingdom
121 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2006 :  00:55:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aha! Problem solved!
Just found this link on the web:
http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/PRODUCTS/EN/_support/faq.cfm?iCncd=300&FAQ=EN31-07217&dsp=1&ln=en&iStcd=4

According to Boss, this happens on the DD-2/DD-3 and DD-5.

Strange though because this doesn't happen on my version 2 DD-3. I assume that they mean the DD-2 and version 1 DD-3 and DD-5.

Nice to know it's not a fault anyway. It looks like these pedals need a short amount of time to 'boot up' before they can be used.
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bossarea
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Posted - 05/03/2006 :  01:04:52  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The DSD-2/DSD-3 is also affected by this.
They're pretty similar to the DD-2/3 so it isn't surprising.
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starr36
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Canada
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Posted - 05/03/2006 :  18:05:22  Show Profile  Visit starr36's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I scrutinized every word in the DD-2 owner's manual.

Under description of the Input Jack there is the following bullet point:

"By muting circuit system, no effect works for about 5 seconds after the unit is powered on."

Edited by - starr36 on 05/03/2006 18:31:48
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stahlhart
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Posted - 05/03/2006 :  18:40:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bossarea

The DSD-2/DSD-3 is also affected by this.
They're pretty similar to the DD-2/3 so it isn't surprising.



Also the RV-2, when switching between modes (we had that discussion offline)...

C.K.
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bossarea
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Posted - 05/03/2006 :  19:54:44  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, it's got its own delays that is a little different

I haven't tested this on the DC-3 yet. It's also one of the early digital pedals so I wouldn't be surpised if it had some built-in delays.
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