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Bassan
Copper Member

Austria
10 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2005 :  20:40:46  Show Profile  Visit Bassan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the link, Dingus!
As I need some other stuff from the Banzai store, I will order there. I think shipping and customs would be too high if I order from the states.
I just need to know if a VTL5C3 really is a substitute for an HTV P873A. I still couldn�t find any info on that issue.
Kind regards,
Christoph
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Dingus
Silver Member

USA
472 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2005 :  00:23:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alright so on second notice if you look at the Small Bear Store he has almost the same photocoupler or at least one that I believe will work the same:

http://www.smallbearelec.com/Detail.bok?no=360

note the brand and P873 designation

I am willing to bet this will work. I got my CS-1 in the mail today and just for reference my Photocouplers say HTV P873A and there is also a 16 written on them.

ALSO: I was looking over the CS-1 Service Notes and in the service notes the PCB is an ET-30B, when I opened up mine it was a ET-30D, and in the service notes it says "CHANGING RESISTANCE VALUE" and the mod it lists in there is supposed to "... convenient vol. balance between DIRECT and EFFECT sounds. (can be balance around center of rotation) 2. For reducing noise in TREBLE MODE. 3. Consequently, numbers in OUTPUT level are changed: Serial no. 7700 and higher.

The last part about the Serial no. 7700 and higher got me wondering, what serial number is yours? and what Revision of the PCB is it?

Edited by - Dingus on 11/04/2005 02:33:27
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Bassan
Copper Member

Austria
10 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2005 :  10:46:48  Show Profile  Visit Bassan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
First I�d�really like to thank you all! A special appreciation goes out to Dingus!
The serial number printed on a papersticker inside the battery compartment says: 072800,
the PCB Revision is the same as yours Dingus, CS-1(ET-30D). I found no 16 on the photocouplers, but the one called PH-1 on the board says HTV9873A 1C, the one called PH-2 on the board says HTV9873A 1D.
Kind regards,
Christoph
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mazzbob
Copper Member

USA
6 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2008 :  15:35:13  Show Profile  Visit mazzbob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by visserman

Hmmmm have a feeling it may be easier to buy another CS-1, may be as cheap as going through the whole repair-route, unless you know a good repair-guy in the area where you live.



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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2008 :  16:09:00  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi mazzbob

Welcome to the forum from Australia.

Nice Myspace page, & Blues
In the main pic, which of the guys is you?

My bulldog ate my guitar... I like it.

mazzbob; Any chance of getting you to upload clean copy,
of the RupertSnapDog logo.. (I love it)
Do you guys use that logo on the Mapex bass drum?


When it came to homework, I used that excuse many times in my youth.

Hey, nice slide on "Political Blues"

Regards Dr. Bob

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 12/28/2008 16:23:16
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mazzbob
Copper Member

USA
6 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2008 :  16:23:49  Show Profile  Visit mazzbob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi guys:

I also have a CS-1 that I have had for years but I don't use it because when engaged it suppresses the sound so much that it delays the (note) sound from coming out for a few seconds. I have always wondered if it is working correctly. I keep the controls LEVEL 12:00 SUSTAIN 9:00 / 10:00 in the NORMAL settings maybe better in TREBLE settings. If I set it more than the 12:00 on the SUSTAIN then there is a delay of sound in the note and it seems that there is too much suppression. There really is no one around my location that can repair this, I have tried, I would have to do it myself. The number on the back board is CS-1 052-288D. On the front is CS-1 (ET-30D). Any assistance would be appreciated. Bob.
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mazzbob
Copper Member

USA
6 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2008 :  16:31:24  Show Profile  Visit mazzbob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, we now use it on the drum and I'm the ugly one on the left in green shirt. The pics were from a benefit we did for the Veterans that came back from combat that are permanently disabled. We raised a lot of money for them.
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mazzbob
Copper Member

USA
6 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2008 :  16:59:29  Show Profile  Visit mazzbob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks and a Happy New Year to all.
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silvertone6120
Gold Member

USA
609 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2008 :  19:13:50  Show Profile  Visit silvertone6120's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Doesn't sound like your CS-1 is behaving properly. I don't use mine often but when I do there's no "delay" between my playing and hearing what I'm doing. I have no solution either(sorry, I'm not a tech head; there are several here who can help).
Usually I can run my sustain way up, sometimes all the way open, and have no problems. The only thing(and this is probably normal for this pedal) is I can NOT use the Treble switch. I have to use the Normal setting on the switch...I figure it's because I'm a single coil player.

Anyway, hope you get it all worked out.

Cheers
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verivorax
Platinum Member

Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2008 :  19:55:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it behaving like a slow gear?? Or is it just so squishy that the clarity of the note has to push out.. They have a VERY slow attack usually, and there are a bunch of threads about it.


If the time can really be measured in seconds.. did the speed of light slow down? Is there a Bose-Einstein condensate in the photocoupler? If your CS-1 is really a slow gear, or magic, I'd definitely trade you for one of my known-operational CS-1s.....
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DeFrag
Moderator

USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2008 :  22:09:51  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Welcome to Bossarea mazzbob!
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mazzbob
Copper Member

USA
6 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2008 :  04:20:16  Show Profile  Visit mazzbob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, it's squishy that the clarity of the note has to push out, like there is a plunk then the note fades in, takes about 1/4 of a second after each note. Playing with it is weird because your timing is off when the note sounds. It feels like your catching up to the music because it sounds like your playing slow or something because of the note delay.
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2008 :  05:58:18  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by verivorax

Is it behaving like a slow gear?? Or is it just so squishy that the clarity of the note has to push out.. They have a VERY slow attack usually, and there are a bunch of threads about it.


If the time can really be measured in seconds.. did the speed of light slow down? Is there a Bose-Einstein condensate in the photocoupler? If your CS-1 is really a slow gear, or magic, I'd definitely trade you for one of my known-operational CS-1s.....



You bugger, I was drinking a cup of cool tea;
When I read your reply, I laughed so hard, I nearly coughed tea out my nostrils.....

And in case you forgot,
at Christmas time, & after a few drinks, the speed of everything changes.

Regards Dr. Bob

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 12/29/2008 05:59:56
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2008 :  06:04:27  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by verivorax
If the time can really be measured in seconds.. did the speed of light slow down? Is there a Bose-Einstein condensate in the photocoupler? If your CS-1 is really a slow gear, or magic, I'd definitely trade you for one of my known-operational CS-1s.....


That's the first time I've ever seen someone I know use the term "Bose-Einstein condensate".... Boffo! A good one!
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verivorax
Platinum Member

Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2008 :  14:07:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Dr. Bob and Laurie for the engineering props! Cool tea at Chrismastime?! But it's true, everything around here is a little slower.

I think maybe in another dimension I'm a dangerous physicist.. here, just a mild-mannered boss collector.

--

1/4 second delay in the output from a CS-1 seems normal at some settings. It's not really usable as a subtle compressor, more an overarching effect (which sounds very nice with some phase and delay maybe).

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