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controlfreak
Silver Member
Ireland
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 Posted - 02/22/2007 : 09:59:07
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Hey guys,
Was just playing around with my CE-2 the other day and someone mentioned how 80's sounding it was. i knew that already and i've been trying to use it in a new way but it did make me think. has chorus (and possibly flange) had it's day?
i always think of 80's metal guitar noodlings when i run a standard flanger setting or chorus with distortion.
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RRV-10
Silver Member
Australia
246 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2007 : 11:38:15
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| I think it's still acceptable to have some light chorus, but saturated chorus does sound very dated. I think the CE-2 sounds very dated. It's possible it could sound fresh in the future - Vibe was exhausted in the 60s and 70s but seems to be experiencing some sort of revival at the moment - but it's probably still to early for a chorus revival. |
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nibla
Bronze Member
France
131 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2007 : 12:09:27
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| Yes, chorus is a very dated effect, because it has been really over-used in the 80's, and not only with guitars, with synths too... |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2007 : 13:25:43
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i dont think its out dated even though it was butchered and sexually molested in the 80s/half the 90s.
thats like saying fuzz is dead because the 60s and 70s bands. k maybe fuzz is dead. bad example.
ok well if chorus IS dead due to the 80s, then flange and delay must be dead too. |
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controlfreak
Silver Member
Ireland
337 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2007 : 13:30:21
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^^ i think bands in the 60/70's strived for that natural tone with few effects. a very organic sound which lasts forever whereas in the 80's things were totally overproduced so these effects sound very dated now.
it depends on how you use delay as to whether it sounds dated or not i think.
it's funny cos i think the phaser sound is so much fresher than either of it's cousins, chorus or flange.
tremolo will prob always sound good as it lets the original sound of the guitar thru. |
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RossL
Bronze Member
USA
63 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2007 : 14:57:53
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If you use it tastefully it still sounds good to me. I like a light chorus on clean chords.
What effects aren't "dated"? Reverb is one of the oldest and it still sounds good when used correctly. I never thought I would use a phase shifter again but since I modded my MXR 90 I use it more than I thought I would.
As others have said, I don't use any of the above to "drench" my signal. I have always tried to set them so you don't really notice them in a BIG way. |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2007 : 15:37:29
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Hi Guys
I think it all depends on the music that you play,
and how much of the effect you apply.
Sometime - most times, less is more. 
Regards Dr. Bob |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
1309 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2007 : 16:54:46
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80's or not (I like 80's rock music a lot btw) I still love to use a hint of chorus on my bass sound to make it sing a little more.
Who cares if it sounds dated? Hendrix, the beatles, and a few dozen more bands/albums sound dated, but never bore. |
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gurran1928
Gold Member
Sweden
650 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2007 : 21:48:55
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| Everybody owns a chorus and everybody love to use it.. That's it! End of story.. |
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tomwest
Silver Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/22/2007 : 21:52:04
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Originally posted by StratoSphere
thats like saying fuzz is dead because the 60s and 70s bands. k maybe fuzz is dead. bad example.
Fuzz definitely is NOT dead! As for Chorus, I think it can date your guitar sound to the 80's because of the overuse, but if you use it originally/nicely it's really great, all you need to do is listen to the Cure's 'Seventeen Seconds' to see this. Same goes for Flange. |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2007 : 23:34:57
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^^^ what i meant by fuzz being dead is that i havent heard a fuzz pedal since like the 70s. oh and nu metal/industrial stuff but that doesnt count .
obviously its used here and there but it hasnt been nearly as dominant as it was back then. same goes for chorus in the 80s. not to say that i dont like these effects, because i absolutely love them both, but i think both effects have already reached their pinnacle and have now leveled off back to normal. i guess by "dead" i meant no longer overused
did i just use the word "pinnacle?"
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stratman
Silver Member
Australia
283 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2007 : 23:49:04
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I think it might sound "dated" but I don't think you shouldn't use it.
It use it a lot. Sometimes to add a real chorus effect, other times to fatten up my tone. It works well this way.
But listen to a lot of the current music these days. I'm not talking R&B ( ) or hip-hop or any other "Top 40" pop stuff. But the more "traditional" rock and roll kind of stuff.
It's the 80s all over again.
(e.g. The Future Heads are SO 80s sounding but great, IMHO) And there's many, many more bands like them at the moment.
Even clothing styles are now 80s again.
Things come and go in cycles... a few years back thing were a lot more 70s (music and clothes) now we've moved on to the 80s again - at least in Australia anyway. |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2007 : 01:21:33
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ya its the same here in Canada/America. all the trendy kids in tight black jeans, shirt and sometimes a tennis wristband. and that STUPID hair cut...no hair on one side and all of it on the other side, with reverse mullets (short at the back, long at the front) and BADLY dyed black.. some guys even go as far as eye makeup. its like the 80s all over again but 10 billion times worse. i know fashion is fashion but man when i see these kids i dont know if i should laugh or feel obligated to beat them up and take their lunch money. bahaha
in 10 years when these kids look back at photos of themselves looking like half assed depressed goth/screamo kids they are gonna think "what the hell was i thinking?"
but ya, getting back to chorus......
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Big Boss Man
Gold Member
USA
564 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2007 : 02:30:36
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| Chorus is such an unfortunate effect. First the stigma from the 80s and then Kurt Cobain comes along a butchers it even more in the 90s. I really do like the effect, but you have to use it subtly to not sound dated. That is why I like the DC-2 so much. |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2007 : 04:36:55
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| is the DC-2 really better than the CE-2? i heard different stories. some say that its just super hyped because of the originality of the push buttons. ive always wanted to try one. |
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RRV-10
Silver Member
Australia
246 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2007 : 05:29:12
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| In stereo it slays the CE-2. In mono it's less impressive, but still better IMO. I found the CE-2 to be really generic sounding. The DC-2 has more character and movement, but it's thinner and not as warm. Download the Cocteau Twin's track Carolyn's Fingers. The chorus effect on that track (hell most of the whole BBK album)sounds exactly like the DC-2. |
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Is Chorus A Dated Effect??
