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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2006 :  11:30:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A lot of Boss pedals are surrounded by hype, most of them rightly so, like DM-2, VB-2 or CE-2.
For myself I think OD-1 are hyped too much, I don�t think it�s that good, Boss have made better OD�s in my opinion. I have only for one time listened to the 14-pin version so I�m talking strictly of the 8-pin version here.

controlfreak
Silver Member

Ireland
337 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2006 :  12:21:40  Show Profile  Visit controlfreak's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i think the DS-1 is a bit overhyped. the output of that pedal just doesn't cut it at gig volume. i have to have it maxed out to hear it, something that doesn't happen with other OD's
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2006 :  13:15:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You got a point there Controlfreak, but the SOUND of DS-1 is just great in my opinion. I usually boost my DS-1 with a BD-2 on relatively clean setting.
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2006 :  13:39:12  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
MT-2 is often wrongly hyped. lots say they hate this pedal, but it literally can do anything for heavy metal. and people say that its too trebly. i never understood this as it has a built in 3 band EQ. i think every metalhead should own one.

XT-2. again im sticking up for this guy saying that it CAN sound good if used properly. it takes time to find a setting and use for this.

NF-1. i wouldnt say this is overhyped as there really isnt much hype at all. with any "modern type of distortion setup, this thing is useless.

LM-2. this thing is underhyped. a treasure and a life saver. right up there with the NS-2 and LS-2





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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2006 :  16:23:10  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
For me it was the MZ-2 Digital metalizer
I heard so much about this pedal, I went out & bought one,
for me it didn't live up to the hype.
I kept it though, as it can do some crazy robotic sounds if you
run it from a variable power supply at 8 volts & below.
not to mention, that this baby eats batteries like there is no tommorow.

The other pedal I have a love hate relationship with is
the CS-3 Compressor Sustaner, tried really hard to find a setting
I like on this pedal.

Some of my friends told me to find an earlier CS-2 as it is much
more transparent.
Others, told me to do the optic mod on it, if couldn't find a CS-2.
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stahlhart
Platinum Member

1318 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2006 :  16:29:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Goran

A lot of Boss pedals are surrounded by hype, most of them rightly so, like DM-2, VB-2 or CE-2.


I'm with you on the first two -- but I don't see hype about the CE-2 being excessive, unless you're specifically referring to the MIJ versus MIT issue (which is probably a non-issue). The VB-2 interest is probably little more than rarity/collectibility, but the aura that surrounds the DM-2 is fabricated from whole cloth -- it's a pedal sought out to emulate a sound that was never created by using it or any other device like it in the first place.
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jack
Platinum Member

USA
1418 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2006 :  20:09:08  Show Profile  Visit jack's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StratoSphere

MT-2 is often wrongly hyped. lots say they hate this pedal, but it literally can do anything for heavy metal. and people say that its too trebly. i never understood this as it has a built in 3 band EQ. i think every metalhead should own one.



I agree with you, the MT-2 is often wrongly hyped. The EQ is what makes the MT-2 stand out in my opinion. I think it gets a bad rap though cause some people don't understand the EQ section, or mis-use it. I think part of the problem is the players who look at mids like the plague, as I have gone off on them before in other areas of the forum, but I think these players get the MT-2, and cut out the entire mid sections of the EQ cause they think,"Dimebag and Zakk don't use mids". Then they boost the bass and treble EQs to the max and the distortion to the max, and if you do this, it makes the no mids scoop sound sound even worse than it already does.

The other guitarist in the band I am in was complaining again about how you can't hear him when he plays leads, and asked me what should he do...I'm thinking,"You need to add mids to your EQ, but if you didn't listen the first hundred times I said it, why waste my breath again."

Sorry to stray a bit off-topic....but this guy uses a 150watt Randall Head into a Randall 4x12 cab, and can't hear his leads standing in front of the cab, with the volumes at 7. I on the otherhand, am using a sh!tty Rogue (Musicians Friend store-brand, in other words) 120watt 2x12 combo, running an MT-2 and NS-2 in-line into it, and I can hear myself everywhere, with the volumes only on 3. First lesson in audio, if wattage and volume are not the issue, check the EQ...but this kid knows better than me even though I have been playing since he was in diapers...or basically he'll just do whatever Dimebag Darrell and Zakk Wylde do, including growing an goofy ass beard....I love my band

Edited by - jack on 10/02/2006 20:28:09
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gibsygoldtop
Copper Member

USA
21 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2006 :  20:56:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
IMO the DM 2 - only by my own misunderstanding though. i didn't realize just how short the delay was going to be. however, i am keeping it though. i am looking forward to using it for something on our next recording.
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diggum12
Silver Member

USA
282 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2006 :  22:26:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
but this guy uses a 150watt Randall Head into a Randall 4x12 cab, and can't hear his leads standing in front of the cab, with the volumes at 7.


Ah, how I was once that young man, but that was 10 years ago.

IMO, any Boss pedal labeled CE or CH in front of it is hyped.
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bossarea
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2006 :  23:07:38  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think I find the PN-2 most over-hyped. As a tremolo I like the TR-2 better.
The PN-2's party piece is the stereo pan effect but I don't find that a useful effect at all. Why it demands well over $100 on Ebay is beyond me.
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2006 :  07:32:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with Bossarea about PN-2, as a tremolo it is a bad one and the price people are willing to pay for it....
DM-2 is a bit missunderstood I think, using it with very short delay you get a really fat tone. With longer delays it�s not that good.
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Big Boss Man
Gold Member

USA
564 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2006 :  21:29:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
MZ-2 would be nothing if Gilmour did not use it once.
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lost_in_sound
Silver Member

United Kingdom
150 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2006 :  22:58:49  Show Profile  Visit lost_in_sound's Homepage  Send lost_in_sound an AOL message  Reply with Quote
OD-1 - everyone understands my reasons by now
DC-2 - simply four modes doesn't really cut it for me
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Big Boss Man
Gold Member

USA
564 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2006 :  23:43:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
DC-2 is one of my favorites. Nothing wrong with four modes when they are all good.
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RRV-10
Silver Member

Australia
246 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2006 :  10:36:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with lost_in_sound:

I've had two OD-1s, a non-momentary led SS and a plastic screw, and both cut a lot of bass and highs, leaving a telephone-mids type tone.

I also had two DC-2s. They don't sound bad, but there's not a lot of variance between the modes, and I got sick of the sound after a week in both cases. It's a very 80s sound.
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DiscoFreq
Copper Member

Belgium
16 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2006 :  11:19:04  Show Profile  Visit DiscoFreq's Homepage  Click to see DiscoFreq's MSN Messenger address  Send DiscoFreq a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I like the PN-2, you can use it to "pan" between 2 parallel effects chains. And you can do this by putting the PN-2 at the beginning or the end of them, so the "tremolo wave mini-envelopes" can have an influence on the chain or not.

I think the DM-2 and DM-3 are overhyped as they are "just" good analog delays, but there are a lot of other good analog delays, also overhyped (Maxon/Ibanez AD80) or cheap (Exar AD-1, AD-02).
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