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MullyFX
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Posted - 12/30/2009 :  02:17:43  Show Profile  Visit MullyFX's Homepage  Reply with Quote
well that would make sense...

I always understood dolby as increasing the high end on one end and decreasing it on the other and this way it should take away the noise generated in between.... (maybe that's why the NS-2 has got a loop) ahhh okay... I guess I need to try one of those
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natthu
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Australia
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Posted - 12/30/2009 :  03:00:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MullyFX

well that would make sense...

I always understood dolby as increasing the high end on one end and decreasing it on the other and this way it should take away the noise generated in between.... (maybe that's why the NS-2 has got a loop) ahhh okay... I guess I need to try one of those



I think the loop is for comparison. So the NS-2 looks at what is coming in and compares it to the loop signal... I guess it would make it easier to distinguish what *isn't* noise if you were trying to isolate the noise just from the loop. If you aren't using the loop the NS-2 has to just determine what is noise from the input signal alone.

Maybe that's why there's a loop. Otherwise what would be the point of it?
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MullyFX
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Posted - 12/30/2009 :  13:46:54  Show Profile  Visit MullyFX's Homepage  Reply with Quote
comparing doesn't really make sense

since the sound obviously differs if there's an FX inside the loop

adding high frequency and subtracting it again however causes the (high frequency) noise floor to be reduced

this only works for pedals that emit noise without an input signal obviously (because input signal dependent noise would increase if you increase the high frequency before the pedal - and obviously decrease again if you lower the same amount afterwards) It will however reduce the noise that is not input signal dependent

that combined with a good gate could make a really good noise gate / filter.

comparing doesn't really work (at least I don't see how it could - which doesn't mean much hehe) and also - analyzing the noise to substract it from the signal would a) require a learn button b) sound shite most of the time and c) wouldn't be able to fit into a small box.... the amount of filters required would be to high....

just my two cents... but please do prove me wrong. Cause I'd like to understand how all this works.

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natthu
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Australia
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Posted - 12/30/2009 :  18:00:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Hmmmm... well you're probably right Mully. I'm just guessing there...

My actual knowledge of the NS-2 is something like this:

Input Signal to NS-2 -> Mysterious Process (possibly magic)-> Cleaner output signal.

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MullyFX
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Posted - 12/30/2009 :  20:18:13  Show Profile  Visit MullyFX's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by natthu


Hmmmm... well you're probably right Mully. I'm just guessing there...

My actual knowledge of the NS-2 is something like this:

Input Signal to NS-2 -> Mysterious Process (possibly magic)-> Cleaner output signal.





I'm just guessing (and assuming) as well... I don't believe in magic though so... hehe
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