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Manni
Copper Member

New Zealand
3 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2005 :  08:18:00  Show Profile  Visit Manni's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I recently bought my first boss pedal so i dont know much but is it bad to plug a bass guitar into a guitar pedal?

Britsie
Bronze Member

Belgium
92 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2005 :  09:40:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No, I do it all the time. But there is a reason why Boss produces pedals just for bass: they sound better for bass. Good luck with your first af (maybe) many Boss pedals.
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Manni
Copper Member

New Zealand
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Posted - 11/22/2005 :  10:09:25  Show Profile  Visit Manni's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks, i'll try it out.
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bossarea
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2005 :  11:01:47  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Out of curiosity, which pedal have you got?
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Manni
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New Zealand
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Posted - 11/26/2005 :  00:24:09  Show Profile  Visit Manni's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have a MT-2
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ptero
Silver Member

Mexico
218 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2006 :  09:49:35  Show Profile  Visit ptero's Homepage  Click to see ptero's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
By the way, i want to know if it is truth or just a myth. People say that you can damage your amp-speakers if you plug a bass in a guitar amp? or maybe the myth was vice versa: if you plug a guitar in a bass amp.
I remember had plugged a microphone in a guitar amp, a bass in a modular equipment (cd player, cassette player, radio), microphones in a mixer and the out in a modular, a bass through a NS-2 to the mixer; nothing wrong but poor quality sound sometimes happened. Nevertheless, I want to know the real fact about it.
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StratoSphere
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Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2006 :  13:36:22  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i was asking the same question about a year ago. everyone i asked said DONT DO IT!!! i cant verify 100% but i say its ok as long as you keep it at a reasonable volume. if turned too high it might be able to screw up your amp. just to make sure, i had a LM-2 in my chain to aviod any accidental volume jumps.

as for Bass and Guitar pedals, putting them together in any order is fine.
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tomwest
Silver Member

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/31/2006 :  14:08:29  Show Profile  Visit tomwest's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Playing a guitar through a bass amp however gets fantastic results.
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 10/31/2006 :  14:44:13  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi petro - StratoSphere & guys

Regarding the amp damage question.

The only thing that I can think off that may get damaged in this manner,
might be the Speaker, through excessive cone travel, if you were to plug a bass guitar into an 1/3 open back cabinet, like on a combo amp.
There isn't enough back loading on the speaker

I sometimes use a locally made bass amp with a fully sealed back, when I only need a small amp.

And lets face it - the Fender Bassman is considered on of the best clean amps to play normal six string guitar into.

I have seen damaged speakers on home HiFi amps when kids plug their guitar gear into them, & then go ape sh!t with all all the pedals mummy just bought them.

There is one other possibility, If the input signal level is too hot (loud) then this may damage
the input transistors/opamps/FET's.
This applies more to solid state & transistor amps.

Valve input stages will take some very serious abuse, before they even look like they will fail.
That's one of the reasons, that boosters work so well on valve amps.
they try and saturate the the valve input stage.

Like StratoSphere stated - if you are concerned, then run a limiter or compressor before the amps inputs.

When I first started, I used to wire up my guitar into an old (mono) phonograph that my dad bought.
It cost him most of his weeks pay.
Let me tell you, he did some damage to my butt that day, when he saw how fantastic a wiring job I had done, to the family's record player, as a
teenage electronics Wizz, & Mega Rockstar.


Well, that's another one of my, EPIC 2 cents worth...
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Big Boss Man
Gold Member

USA
564 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2006 :  17:02:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are a few Boss guitar pedals that were very popular with bass players, like the LM-2 or PQ-4. I think the first bass series started shortly after they found out about the popularity of those two with bass players. There are definitely no risks in plugging a bass into a guitar pedal. Not sure what to expect out of the MT-2 with a bass though.
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ptero
Silver Member

Mexico
218 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2006 :  19:29:30  Show Profile  Visit ptero's Homepage  Click to see ptero's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Thank you all of you for the comments. Now the myth is getting clearer. Thanks Dr. Bob for technical facts, very useful, interesting. And Tomwest, if you say so, I have a 15 Watts Marshall guitar amp and a 450 Watts Behringer bass amp (I used to play the bass in a local bar). And when the 15 watts are not enough, e.g. live perfomance with loud drums player, I will try the 450 Watts for my guitar.
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gurran1928
Gold Member

Sweden
650 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2006 :  19:51:13  Show Profile  Visit gurran1928's Homepage  Click to see gurran1928's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
But don't forget that all old stuff were "unisex" not especially made for guitar or bass, like my old Marshall amp. It has been used by a bass player before me.
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StratoSphere
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Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2006 :  00:13:08  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i forgot to mention that i asked my dad a while ago. hes big into stereo equipment and speakers. im not. anyway, the surpsising thing is that he said a bass can blow your tweeters and not your subs. you would think it would be the other way around since bass is a lower frequency.

or something along those lines anyway
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DeFrag
Moderator

USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2006 :  00:42:06  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StratoSphere

i forgot to mention that i asked my dad a while ago. hes big into stereo equipment and speakers. im not. anyway, the surpsising thing is that he said a bass can blow your tweeters and not your subs. you would think it would be the other way around since bass is a lower frequency.

or something along those lines anyway



I won't argue but would have to say any speaker system worth its weight would sport a crossover to protect the tweets from low freq signals. I might see blowin' your crossover though hehe
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ptero
Silver Member

Mexico
218 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2006 :  01:03:14  Show Profile  Visit ptero's Homepage  Click to see ptero's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I had my theories about the damage to guitar amp speakers by using bass. Maybe it is a matter of circuit theory about impedance (Z) and inductance (L). So, at low frecuency signal, e.g. the bass, the speaker impendance is lower due to blah, blah blah...
But, it seems to me that the physic-mechanical damage that Dr. Bob mentioned is more likely.
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kulten
Gold Member

France
516 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2006 :  08:35:58  Show Profile  Visit kulten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I already saw a guit' amp destroyed by a bass... be carefull.
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