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hateandwar
Gold Member

Australia
524 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2009 :  04:04:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey everyone. I've been wanting a wah wah for ages and I really really want one now. I'm willing to spend good money (Thanks Mr Rudd). If it helps, I like the wah sounds of Chilli peppers, jimi hendrix, eric clapton, you know. Any help is appreciated

Dirk
Platinum Member

Netherlands
1309 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2009 :  10:10:05  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Check the Morleys, they're great and they don't have pots that get scratchy like the Dunlops.
Also the Boss V-wah is really good.
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2009 :  10:41:20  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hateandwar

Hey everyone. I've been wanting a wah wah for ages and I really really want one now. I'm willing to spend good money (Thanks Mr Rudd). If it helps, I like the wah sounds of Chilli peppers, jimi hendrix, eric clapton, you know. Any help is appreciated



Hi hateandwar

What amp are you running this into?
Remember some of he tone of a wah is related to the type of amp you run it into.

But in the end, it's really up to you to go out & audition a few units, & see which one suits the tone you hear in your head.

Don't be put off by pots going scratchy, that's they way we got out vintage wah tones.
I have a soft spot for the original Italian Jen Crybaby's,
Red or White Fasel inductors seems to work-sing well.
Not too sure about the Green or newer Yellow Fasel's?

The Boss V-Wah does an Ok imitation of a few old wah's, but has limited travel, if you use it as part of your tone shaping, by leaving the pedal part way down or up.

You cant do this with the Morley range of pedals, just another thing to consider.

I have a small collection of wahs, and they are all different.
I do like the vintage growl of the Vox emulation (heel down) on the Line6 POD 2.x Red kidney bean.

You can sometimes find an old JEN with Fasel inductor, on evilbay, like I said don't be put off by a scratchy pot.
they are like $30-$40 or less on the bay.
And I'm willing to fit it for you, if you feel like coming for a drive to the SE suburbs of Melb, ot Aussie post it.

One long term problem with the Morley, is that the optics go out of alignment, after a few years of hard use,
this is typically caused by the top of the metal casing bowing from over exuberant wah playing.

Not a big issue the first few times, but the metal gets more & more curved, then it's time to send it to the wah heaven.

Would I buy a Morley?
Sure, I do like them, they are very studio quiet, but I would be a little more careful after knowing about the bendy top thing.
They can cut through a mix like a hot knife.
And they take pedals before & after very well.

If you have the Folding stuff, look for a vintage Shin-Ei Wah
Like the one I rebuilt for Bossarea member ShakeTheDevil, a few years ago.

Thanks for listening to my 2 cents worth.

Regards Dr. Bob
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rhcp_1005
Silver Member

United Kingdom
307 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2009 :  15:50:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you want the sound of the Chili Peppers you'll need the Ibanez WH10 which is the best for their sound, or you can get the Dunlop Dimebag Crybaby which John Frusciante has also used. Some people say that the WH10 has a unique sound and only really fits the Chili Peppers sound but I use it for everything and it does the job fine.

How much money were you willing to pay? Becuase the WH10 can go for prices anywhere from �130-�250.
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Nibbles
Copper Member

USA
31 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2009 :  10:10:37  Show Profile  Visit Nibbles's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've been using the Dimebag wah for 6 years. The switchable boost (on the side of the pedal) is an awesome feature that will really help you cut through the mix. There are several other adjustments on the pedal to customize your sound. Highly recommended for any type of music, it's more than a "metal head" pedal.
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2009 :  10:47:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wah pedals are, in my opinion, always following the law; you get what you pay for.
I owned a 60�s Vox when I was young and I still remember how good it was. Also had a Colorsound in the 70�s, really good too, and after that I had a long period when I newer used wahs. Then ten years ago or so I became interested again and has been searching for a nice sounding one, and that was not an easy task. I didn�t want to spend a lot of money as my funds was directed to collecting rare Boss pedals�..
I tried the new Vox and Cry Babies, but they didn�t sound the way I liked, I had Boss PW-10 for some years, but it didn�t nail the sound I was after.
Then I found a used Cry Baby with the electronics and pcb substituted for a Roger Mayer mod-kit, and indeed, this was the best wah I�ve heard since my youth!
I�m sure the high-end wahs out there are very good, just test them before buying.
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ksantyp
Copper Member

United Kingdom
39 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2009 :  19:49:56  Show Profile  Visit ksantyp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=ksantyp77&view=videos&query=morley
Check my Morley-dunlop battle.
I find Crybayby better and to be honest dont like Morley - its too dark.
The original 95crybaby i got is very good with Fender guitars - so easy to find SINGLE COILS.
I dont like it with buckers.
But from both 2 my one is Dunlop.

The other stuff I am checkin at the moment is SnarlingDog, but I dont have an oppinion bout it yet.
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the-destructor
Silver Member

USA
334 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2009 :  04:14:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm probably opening myself to a flame or two. I used to have an original Dunlop wah. 2nd time around the ride I opted to get a dirtbag darrell CFH wah and a Digitech EX-7, simply because they are tweakable in several manners. Maybe not the best overall, but I love being in the driver's seat. Dialing in is what we love about "every other pedal"... right?
T-D

Edited by - the-destructor on 04/17/2009 04:15:47
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verivorax
Platinum Member

Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2009 :  08:08:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Any of the Dunlops are good as long as it has enough sweep for you..

The US made VOX from a couple years ago is okay, but their Clyde is a little better.

My favourite is the Voodoo Wahzoo. Pricey, but really good.

Another interesting one is the Ibanez WD-7 Weeping Demon - tons of tweaks and modes - but not for everyone.
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DeFrag
Moderator

USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2009 :  15:11:36  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I have the Ibanez WD7 Weeping Demon & it is very configurable. At times, I wish I had a simpler unit but its a good wah nonetheless.
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zestystrat
Silver Member

USA
283 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2009 :  16:56:16  Show Profile  Visit zestystrat's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have run thru a number of Dunlops and just found them to be kind of pedestrian � good not great. I tried the one with the Q in the name with the different modes and I couldn�t return it fast enough. This was quite a while ago, maybe they are better now.

I had a vox reissue that I like a lot. I have a very HQ studio recording of it if you want to hear one in action. At the time of the recording it was kind of scratchy but to be honest in the context it sounds good IMO.

That said, I have moved to a budda bud wha.

The KB player in my band (also plays gtr) who is a bit of a gear snob, jumped back when I 1st kicked in the Budda and said whoa, MUCH better.

I never disliked the vox but I was on a true bypass kick and that�s what got me to switch.

Also there are a ton of mods out there if you are good with an iron. BYOC is one that jumps to mind as a reasonable one to try and upgrade a cheaper used pedal. EDIT: I think they have a start from scratch kit, but I know there are other mods out there.

Edited by - zestystrat on 04/17/2009 16:58:11
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