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garyinboston
Copper Member
USA
16 Posts |
 Posted - 01/19/2009 : 01:10:19
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OK I plug in the power supply and the compressor works like a charm.
So what the heck happened to the battery approach?
Suggestions?
I'd rather use batteries so any help would be great.
Gary in Boston AKA Child Of The Frozen North |
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sirshack
Copper Member
USA
41 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2009 : 04:10:23
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Amazingly, I might have been on the right track with the screwed-up battery connection theory!  |
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garyinboston
Copper Member
USA
16 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2009 : 04:25:26
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Can you be a little clearer in your assesmernt?
What should I look for etc?
Gary |
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Disco Stu
Silver Member
USA
303 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2009 : 04:25:26
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 Hurrah !! You got it to work!! Now, can you get any decent sounds out of it ??
I remember there is a thread here about that, somewhere... |
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visserman
Platinum Member
1072 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2009 : 12:13:14
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Gary a few simple questions:
Have you bought this pedal recently? [Secondhand, and by serialnumber you are able to tell it is about 4 years old.??.......]
I am interested to see if you have used the pedal with a battery before and all was fine, then came back to the pedal, like a few years later, and discovered this particular problem you described here.
My thoughts are that someone tried to modify the pedal, maybe to get another adaptor to work for the pedal, in this process they must have messed something up hence batt. operation does not work very well.
The fact that batt. was drained in one day gives me this feeling that pedal must be modified in some way.
Is there anything you can see in the area of the adaptor socket, or around the batt. clip? What colour is the batt. clip? What colour are the wires coming from batt. clip going into pedal?
If pedal works fine with adaptor all is fine, but I can see your point wanting the pedal to operate with a batt. as well.
Let us know about some of those questions please, since your problem is somewhat unusual.
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Edited by - visserman on 01/19/2009 12:21:07 |
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garyinboston
Copper Member
USA
16 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2009 : 16:17:30
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Hey There,
I bought the pedal new @ GC with in the last 3-4 years I think.
The serial number on the bottom is WQ10282
The battery terminal is black with a red & black wire.
I can currently see no visual problems with these two wires.
The pedal worked perfectly w/ the battery as long as I owned it until a week or so ago.
I noted that as notes faded out there was some fizz at the end. I thought a new battery was in order and replaced it.
At that point the pedal wouldn't work at all in the off mode and became a weak distortion pedal in the on postition.
I left the new battery in and by morning it was dead. I noted by the way that the red L E D was very, very dim or not on at all durring this process.
I hooked up the power supply and BOOM the L E D is on bright as can be and the pedal is totally back to where it was before. The on / off works everything is fine.
I kinda doubt somebody attempted to mod it as I bought it new and it was completly wrapped up. Also, it's worked fine for quite a while. Now it's true I didn't use it heavily but none the less as I would with any pedal.
What shal I try next? Is the serial number useful info? Is it newer than I thought?
Any help, again greatly appreciated
Gary
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2009 : 18:54:53
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I know if you leave a jack in the input connection it will drain a battery even if the pedal is off..so possibly the input connection is shorting somehow and fooling the pedal into thinking there is a guitar lead or patch lead plugged in...have you tried tightening the 'rose' connector on the battery terminal inside the pedal..? i had a problem with a Dod Chorus pedal once and this fixed it...and did you leave a battery in the pedal while it was lying up...? no harm cleaning the battery terminal as well while you at it in case it has a bit of residue from an old battery on it..but if it would cause the symptoms you describe i don't know....i usually try to do all the simple stuff first before delving deeper.. |
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moonmarkcus
Silver Member
Nicaragua
224 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2009 : 06:09:19
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When you are using 9v battery Do you notice if this battery is warm?
Probably, Sometime when you "pushed" pedal, you did a shortcircuit with both poles of battery receptacle... I guess |
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moonmarkcus
Silver Member
Nicaragua
224 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2009 : 06:11:38
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| Maybe , it was the reason that you heard that weird distortion....after that pedal didnt work because was protected by zener diode.... |
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moonmarkcus
Silver Member
Nicaragua
224 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2009 : 06:12:58
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| Try changing both wires with battery conectors...I mean, change all this battery circuit for a new one ( or use another from other device) |
Edited by - moonmarkcus on 01/21/2009 06:14:22 |
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visserman
Platinum Member
1072 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2009 : 12:27:24
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quote:
Originally posted by garyinboston
Hey There,
I bought the pedal new @ GC with in the last 3-4 years I think.
The serial number on the bottom is WQ10282
The battery terminal is black with a red & black wire.
I can currently see no visual problems with these two wires.
The pedal worked perfectly w/ the battery as long as I owned it until a week or so ago.
I noted that as notes faded out there was some fizz at the end. I thought a new battery was in order and replaced it.
At that point the pedal wouldn't work at all in the off mode and became a weak distortion pedal in the on postition.
I left the new battery in and by morning it was dead. I noted by the way that the red L E D was very, very dim or not on at all durring this process.
I hooked up the power supply and BOOM the L E D is on bright as can be and the pedal is totally back to where it was before. The on / off works everything is fine.
I kinda doubt somebody attempted to mod it as I bought it new and it was completly wrapped up. Also, it's worked fine for quite a while. Now it's true I didn't use it heavily but none the less as I would with any pedal.
What shal I try next? Is the serial number useful info? Is it newer than I thought?
Any help, again greatly appreciated
Gary
Gary, your pedal was made in August 2002, and since you bought pedal new and have used it, your problem sounds like a mystery to me.
Roland do a great repairservice, whenever I used them it has been totally for free, so check with your dealer or contact Roland directly.
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garyinboston
Copper Member
USA
16 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2009 : 12:43:08
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Visserman
Thanks for the info on my compressor.
I will take a peek inside for any obvious issues and then contact Roland.
Gary |
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garyinboston
Copper Member
USA
16 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 03:51:17
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Well, well, well.
I opened up the Boss Compressor before I contacted Boss about it. The black wire was lose on it's terminal inside the unit so I re soldered it. Then I took yet another new 9v battery and plugged it in. I took my battery tester and took a reading at the two points inside the unit to see if 9v was getting in. It wasn't. I wiggled wires, tried again ~ very weak signal still no L E D
I pull out the battery and check that It's very weak as well................ In fact the whole six pack was weak. I run around the house and find an old Duracell. I check that and it's strong. I drop it in the compressor. Try the testor accross the black & red points and while stronger not as strong unconnected. Then I wiggle the red wire and that is lose too. Spot solder that little bomber and now the tester shows a strong 9V getting in. I go and plug into the amp with my guitar and dont cha know it works!
The compressor is back on line!
It must have /may have been a combo of deffective batteries and loose wires.
Thanks for your help here folks it made me curious enough to discover a perfect little storm of problems.
Gary |
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moonmarkcus
Silver Member
Nicaragua
224 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 04:24:53
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COngratulations !!!!!
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Edited by - moonmarkcus on 01/22/2009 04:26:04 |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 05:00:29
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Great news Gary!  |
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Boss Compressor - CS-3
