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guirat
Silver Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 01/12/2007 : 18:20:44
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Was just reading Diggum's reply stating a Fuzz pedal would be a good idea. I agree that there is a huge market out there, just look at all the boutique fuzz pedals, there must be hundreds of varieties.
If Boss could come up with a pedal that faithfully replicates the tonebender/MKII/shin-ei retro sounds then it could be a winner. Maybe they already have all sonic bases covered with their existing overdrive / distortion / metal pedals, but a little marketing to the oldschool fans along with good sounds and a suitably '60s' name might work.
Then again, maybe buyers like the non mass-produced idea of boutique pedals. It's possible that their rarity is a large part of their appeal.
Really they should keep looking forwards, the market may already be saturated by companies appealing to the retro crowd. Future classic pedals spring from new ideas. |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2007 : 11:41:19
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Originally posted by guirat
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If Boss could come up with a pedal that faithfully replicates the tonebender/MKII/shin-ei retro sounds then it could be a winner. Maybe they already have all sonic bases covered with their existing overdrive / distortion / metal pedals, but a little marketing to the oldschool fans along with good sounds and a suitably '60s' name might work.
Hi guirat
As far as the replicating the MKII/shin-ei, perhaps they'ed call it an:
SE-1 Retro Fuzz or maybe even a SH-1 Shin Drive.  
Regards Dr. Bob |
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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member
USA
881 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2008 : 07:32:20
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Now I know the heads over in Japan translate parts of this forum so I want to put some IDEAS out there.
First I agree 100% with Bossarea that a Sitar and a ring modulator (even if it has to be a twin pedal) would be great. Compacts preferred. And congrats Bossarea on the recent addition of the SL-20 Slicer (they're listening).
On a completely different note, I would love to see a BCB-12/BCB-120. And especially a make-over of the SCC-700, with a higher number of pedals allowed and a simpler control center that could be used in conjunction with some computer software. Or at least some software compatible with the Roland VS series.
I mean what musician wouldn't love to set their pedals up on a board then change the order of any pedal through the ease of a click and drag software program?
Oh yeah, almost forgot FA-2 Compact! |
Edited by - Right Foot Boss on 07/26/2008 07:36:08 |
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The_Doc
Gold Member
United Kingdom
509 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2008 : 11:14:26
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An 'auto volume swell' pedal the SW-1.
They did it once before and called it the SG-1 !! Replacement and update well overdue....definitely a gap in the current compact pedal product range. |
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AleNu
Copper Member
Argentina
6 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2008 : 11:45:02
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| IŽd like a reissue of the DC-2, but with a little improvement: the possibility of using two or more simultaneous modes. That would be sweet... |
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Big Boss Man
Gold Member
USA
564 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2008 : 18:29:53
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| I think Right Foot Boss is on to something with the pedal board. I would like to see some sort of true bypass switching system. Something that would allow for stereo loops. I would like a two part system. One part being a carrying case for the pedals and the other being a footswitch that connects to the case with a single cable. The footswitch should be programmable so you could group together off multiple pedals and turn them on and off with a single switch. Of course Boss will never do this. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2008 : 18:51:29
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I think big boss man is probably right...boss have too many multi effects like the GT series etc to be bothered going back and developing a successor to the SCC-700..also with things like the gig rig setup on the market which doesn't constrict you to one brand of effects there would be only be a niche market for the boss one... |
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the-destructor
Silver Member
USA
334 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2008 : 21:57:04
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I would like to see almost all of the "extinct" pedals resurrected. I agree the SG-1 should reincarnate as an SG-2, VB-2 to VB-3, DC-3 to DC-4... I'd like to see anolog delays with more options & time frame than those of old, maybe an anolog-digital hybrid delay.
Although I might not buy it, the tube pedal previously mentioned would be a big bang, I would think.
What the hell is this "take the fun out of the hunt"??? I somewhat see your point, but I don't like the fact that I have to pay $200+ for antiquated technology that has MAYBE 2 dozen components on the entire board. Yes I speak of the SG-1. Yes I'd love to have the original, I probably will some day, but I'm guessing if they were to re-issue this pedal, it would be in $99-$119 range.
Hope I didn't ruffle too many feathers as I am now "off the clock" & ruffling is part of my daily job duties. If I'm workin' OT I wanna be paid.
Laterz,
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mlormans
Copper Member
Belgium
5 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2008 : 03:37:19
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Boss & Fender already introduced the 2 "Legend Series" pedals FDR-1 '65 Fender Deluxe Reverb & FBM-1 '59 Fender Bassman.
Here's my fantasy :
Once more Boss should work together with Fender and reissue the classic Octave/Fuzz pedal (The Fender Blender) into a Boss compact pedal and Fender should stop their current reissue of the Fender Blender, Boss compact pedal design and robustness is simply superior.
Boss should not use COSM technology this time, it's a rather simple schematic diagram and it shouldn't contain a single Integrated Circuit, just some plain old good germanium diodes and transistors.
The layout of the controls on the Boss compact pedal would be (from left to right) :
Volume
Sustain
Tone/Blend (concentric pots)
Tone Boost on/off mode switch (like the Turbo mode switch on the Boss DS-2 Turbo Distortion)
A remote jack lets you switch Tone Boost on/off modes using an external FS-5L footswitch.
Normal LED for on/off status of the effect
Extra LED for on/off status of the tone boost
I'm lucky to own an original 1974 Fender Blender, very wild Octave/Fuzz pedal, I just love the way it sounds.
If it would be reissued into a Boss compact pedal it would be a great succes because its a great Octave/Fuzz effect.
It would finally have correct placement of input jack (right) and output jack (left) and a PSA adaptor connector together with status LEDs which are missing on the original design.
Call it the Boss FBL-1r '68 Fender Blender. 
To make the retro look complete the pedal should be made of brushed aluminium. |
Edited by - mlormans on 07/29/2008 23:29:24 |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2008 : 12:21:57
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Hi mlormans
welcome to the forum from Australia.
Regards Dr. Bob |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2008 : 12:23:06
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I would like to see the classic series expanded to include some other classic amps. It is probably going to be difficult to cooperate with companies that already compete in the pedal market so I don't think we'll see a Marshall Plexi in pedal form just yet. Maybe a Mesa Boogie Mk1 pedal could be an option?
I predict that we might see one of the current twin pedals in a compact pedal shape soon. Maybe an SL-2, RE-2 or RT-2? |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2008 : 12:39:07
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Originally posted by bossarea
I would like to see the classic series expanded to include some other classic amps. It is probably going to be difficult to cooperate with companies that already compete in the pedal market so I don't think we'll see a Marshall Plexi in pedal form just yet. Maybe a Mesa Boogie Mk1 pedal could be an option?
I predict that we might see one of the current twin pedals in a compact pedal shape soon. Maybe an SL-2, RE-2 or RT-2?
Good prediction bossarea...
Or maybe a bit of inside info?  (nudge nudge, wink wink)
Now an SL-2, that's right up my alley & budget.
Regards Dr. Bob |
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mlormans
Copper Member
Belgium
5 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2008 : 20:53:27
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Here's another Boss/Fender Legend Series compact pedal suggestion :
What about a reissue of the classic Fender Leslie Unit known as Fender Vibratone into a Boss compact pedal perfectly suited for guitar players.
The Fender Vibratone was made from '67 to '72 and is extremely rare nowadays, it has changed the sound of electric guitar since the late sixties.
Downscaling the Boss RT-20 Rotary Ensemble twin pedal into a more simple Boss compact pedal design could indeed be the next step.
Here are some words of explanation how the Fender Vibratone works :
A double footswitch controlled a two-speed motor and turned the Vibratone on or off. When the Vibratone is turned off, the amplifer's regular speaker signal was switched in; if it was turned on, a special filter sent the highs (treble frequencies) and lows (bass frequencies) to the amplifer's speaker, while the midrange frequencies were sent to the Vibratone.
The slow (chorale or chorus) speed produced a rich, moody, shimmering tone and was measured to be 40 rpm. The fast (tremolo) speed gave a brighter, warbly, more cheerful sound and rotated at about 340 rpm. As the Styrofoam rotor started speeding up or slowing down, the Doppler effect was pronounced. Take a listen to organ players as you can hear the "ramp" of the rotor speeding up or down.
The layout of the controls on the Boss compact pedal would be (from left to right) :
Level / Tone (concentric pots)
Chorus Speed / Tremolo Speed (concentric pots)
Rise Time / Fall Time (concentric pots)
Mode switch (Chorus / Tremolo) (like the Turbo mode switch on the Boss DS-2 Turbo Distortion)
A remote jack lets you switch between Chorus/Tremolo Speed using an external FS-5L footswitch.
Stereo inputs & outputs for deeper/wider effect.
Normal LED for on/off status of the effect
Dual colour LED for on/off status of Chorus / Tremolo
Call it the Boss FVT-1r '67 Fender Vibratone.
To make the retro look complete the pedal should have a paint with texture/stucture that looks like the Fender Black Tolex.  |
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Big Boss Man
Gold Member
USA
564 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2008 : 02:09:19
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Heart and Soul
Silver Member
USA
369 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2008 : 06:40:56
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| a bit crusher/reducer and a ring modulator...mostly the bit crusher though... |
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